Regarding mostly Democrat governors "helping" young men, that may just be a cleverly disguised way to get them to accept their fate as second class citizens more cheerfully. I fear the Greeks even when they bring gifts.
If men like Jordan Peterson were taken more seriously maybe nobody would listen to the Tates and their ilk.
So getting men better shots at education and good jobs is making them second class citizens? Addressing our health care needs in real and effective ways makes us lesser? I am sorry, but this argument doesn't make sense to me. If we ask our leaders to take problems with men & boys seriously, and they start to do so, it should be met with some applause and an ask to do more... not derision.
As for Jordan Peterson, some of his stuff invovling discipline and structure is spot on. But when he continues with women invite sexual harassment by wearing lipstick... that is when I stop taking him seriously.
It is yet to be seen whether programs for men will actually focus on getting them "better shots at education and good jobs." Abolishing all affirmative action and equity programs in education and hiring so that men can compete on merit--and getting rid of feminist propaganda generally--would be a far better and simpler action that I don't suppose, a single Democrat or Republican will venture upon. Abolishing no-fault divorce and the accompanying bias against men in the family courts, leading to boys raised by single mothers, would also be a no-brainer that neither conservatives nor liberals can manage to grasp.
I suspect, with Paul M, that most programs for boys and men will focus on making them into good little feminists who do whatever their wives or girlfriends tell them and, later, pay their child support promptly without expecting to see their stolen children.
Let's say that no fault divorce is hypethically gotten rid of to make child custody more equitable in case of a split. What is your solution then to the increased harm caused by people staying in terrible marriages?
Some notes about the paper "BARGAINING IN THE SHADOW OF THE LAW: DIVORCE LAWS AND FAMILY DISTRESS"
Written by Betsey Stevenson and Justin Wolfers a couple with two children. The couple are not themselves married. They are primarily economists, so narrowly focused they even use economic terms like 'input' and 'output' for describing dealing with their children's diapers.
Note: they are not counsellors, they are not sociologists. They are economists praised in the New York Times for having "a remarkable ability to render economic concepts in simple terms" (this does not invalidate what they have to say, but it might make you wary when reading a paper on marriage from them).
Personally I am wary of any paper with meaningless tautological sentences like this one: "The people most likely to benefit from unilateral divorce are therefore those who stand to gain the most from having the option to exit their relationship."
They conclude that "Averaging the effects over the twenty years following [introduction of no-fault divorce] suggests an aggregate decline of 5–10 percent" Yet they admit that violence was on the decline anyway. They partially address this issue on p278.
Some of the references they cite are good. These include work by Gelles, Richard J., and Murray A. Straus; and the United States Department of Health and Human Services. Some sources have been generally discredited in the main (though not necessarily in the specific in which they are being used).
A distinct weakness of the report is that they only consider data from the USA. Had they researched other nations as well, the findings might have been able to have a stronger implication, as it would have gone a certain way to removing the obvious fact that a few percentage change over a generation cannot be tied to any single event very reliably. A U.S. state that brings in no-fault divorce, for example, is probably also bringing in more women's shelters at the same time. One would certainly hope that the billions of tax dollars spent on women's shelters over this time is having some effect on female suicide rate.
Over the study period, it seems that partner murders of men has risen dramatically. Again, there are going yo be many other reasons for this, including the incease in female entitlement. Yet if the figures are going to be taken as purely single cause, this increase should warn that no-fault divorce is dangerous.
I found no reliable correlation between those who commit suicide and those who had failed to exit divorce. It simply cannot be said that this paper shows that no fault divorce has been shown in any way to decrease suicides by women, or domestic violence by either sex, or murders.
There is no mention of the impact of no-fault divorce on children. Given the volume of evidence that divroce generally does a great deal of harm to children, this is a huge gap.
They are responsible for tormenting, if there was a famine and you walked around with cart full of food you couldn't blame anyone for trying to take a bite.
So you honestly think wearing lipstick is tomenting enough to justify violently raping a woman? Dude... it's not. Real men accept the responsibility that we are bigger and stronger than most women. Assaulting them is the action of weak, small boys who never grew up.
Wearing lipstick is nothing but some women look like sex and they talk about sex a lot, i knew 2 women like that but i wouldnt even speak to them, i have no time for torments.
Right My Dudes; there is far more to it than women dressing like sex objects, that's the superficial part, the much more covert/overt part is their own behaviour.
Even though I am going to get crucified for saying this, although it doesn't apply to all cases, it can be her behaviour, the sexual signalling, the sexual teasing and promising sex, but not delivering, that will put some women at risk of being sexually assaulted.
There is never an excuse for a man to phsycally assaulty a women. We are not mindless thugs, and any "reason" or "excuse" is wrong. I don't care if a women walks into a frat house naked. Saying “makeup is very provocative” like Peterson did is giving excused for male behaviour.
"Saying “makeup is very provocative” like Peterson did is giving excused for male behaviour."
NO he is not, that is your projection.
Before this degenerates any further, there are some very dangerous people in our society of both genders. There are men and women who, at this very moment, should never be released from prison.
They simply do not care.
Whether you like it or not, the courtship dance is very much about how a woman dresses, the makeup she wears, and her behaviour is about sexual signalling.
If men en masse had ignored all this "signalling behaviour", the vast majority of us would never have been conceived.
I agree that no one should use "Force", and the use of "Force" in this context is not justifiable.
Nice work! The first thing I thought of when I saw the title was Edyie Gormé's Blame it on the Bossa Nova. I think some perversion of that song would be dynamite as well.
I think women and beta men are getting too wrapped up examining their own bowel movements about the manosphere. We are doing just fine, thank you very much. We are going our own way, minding our own business, and the rest of you need to just get a grip. If you get a little bit lonesome, you will find us in the Philippines, Thailand, or the Ukraine, looking for, finding, and marrying-up feminine women who realize that marriage is a partnership and that each partner needs to bring something to the table more than just chaos and dependency. Have a nice life and enjoy your cats. We'll be over here making a life for ourselves.
Sorry, but this is dead wrong. The values that these Manosphere types share about mental health, where domination and conquering are seen as the cure rather than asking for help and keeping good friends around, is resulting in more dead dudes. Our rates of suicide and overdose death are too high, and these guys are making the problem worse.
RMD, you have internalized the liberal / progressive framing of the manosphere; and they are using a few bad actors to tarnish the all parts of the male-space community.
You have a social media presence (“Right My Dudes”). You are the manosphere.
Brother, who is "they"? I've always considered myself a fairly progressive guy, and while there are real issues with male spaces, educational problems, and jobs that need to be addressed... who are the people actually doing the addressing? Five Governors seem to be doing real work here; Moore, Cox, Spangenberger, Whitmer, and Newsom. Four of those are D's and three are women. If you want to put some of the Southern states in this with their education/reading reforms for kids, I will give you that. As for Trump, he is screwing guys left and right. We've lost manufacturing jobs, and registered apprenticeships (mostly in the trades and mostly dudes) are down for the first time in years. As for the framing of the manosphere, that is an interesting point. I guess you could consider Galloway, Reeves, Glazer, the Pod Save guys, and to a WAY lesser extent guys like me as part of it. But the Tate/Gaines/Sneako/Fuentes boys who blame women for all of their problems are wrong and dangerous... and, respectfully, they need to opposed as much as possible. They are some of the most popular social media accounts, and their grift (that part of the documentary was spot on) is killing men. I work with dudes in the construction trades, who along with mining have the higest suicide and death by od rates by population in the country. Those assholes are making things worse.
"I've always considered myself a fairly progressive guy" - RED ALERT, RED ALERT. "while there are real issues with male spaces, educational problems, and jobs that need to be addressed" - oh really but Patriarchy so men cant have problems? What? " who are the people actually doing the addressing? Five Governors seem to be doing real work here; Moore, Cox, Spangenberger, Whitmer, and Newsom. Four of those are D's and three are women" - nope, but I left space for miracles, but not hoping for much as scum Newsom does not care about men only if it is good politically. "As for Trump, he is screwing guys left and right. We've lost manufacturing jobs, and registered apprenticeships (mostly in the trades and mostly dudes) are down for the first time in years." - ok, but do you do the same for biden when they lied about I think like 1 million jobs that later was showed dont exist? "As for the framing of the manosphere, that is an interesting point. I guess you could consider Galloway, Reeves, Glazer, the Pod Save guys, and to a WAY lesser extent guys like me as part of it" - clowns who dont care about men just to look good feminist that see men as not as men having problems but as problem that have to be solved and this is very big difference. "But the Tate/Gaines/Sneako/Fuentes boys who blame women for all of their problems are wrong and dangerous" - this is retard level generalisation, but I have admit, i dont follow all of them, so maybe. "and, respectfully, they need to opposed as much as possible." - first thing that we can agree on. "They are some of the most popular social media accounts, and their grift (that part of the documentary was spot on) is killing men" - no, it is not. Not sure what documentary, but it seems it is useless with stupid conclusion like this (fantasy like Adolesence). "I work with dudes in the construction trades, who along with mining have the higest suicide and death by od rates by population in the country. Those assholes are making things worse." - ok, this seems wrong, but do have any evidence/proof that Tate/Gaines/Sneako/Fuentes are responsible for all (not fucking like one or 2) suicides of men? and also this sentence shows your level of stupidity that you are blaming Tate/Gaines/Sneako/Fuentes and not obviously reason why mentioned in sentence.
Brother... yes Biden did a poor job in sympathizing with and communicating about people who were in real pain. On this we can agree. While he also did a good job putting money into programs that employ ment, he didn't address the chronic red tape that got in the way of it getting out to people.
As for the suicide issues, here are direct quotes by some of the afromentioned "influencers".
Andrew Tate- Depression isn’t real. People saying they’re depressed are “weak cowards”.
Sneako - Anyone who takes antidepressants isn’t “a real man”.
Myron Gaines- Guys are sad only because they are “a fucking bitch”.
In 92% of studies, suppreing your emotions and not asking for help appeared to increase suicide risk. That shit builds up over time, leading to more frustration, lonliness, and anger. I see this shit every fucking day on my job. Its real, and these assholes that propogate it are getting people killed. Men are 3.5% more likely to commite suicide as women. Here is the information from the CDC. https://afsp.org/suicide-statistics/
But another big issue here is this: I try and engage in these forums to learn things with respectful conversation... becuase my old man (a 25 year paratrooper combat vet) taught me that was an intensenly masculine value. Calling people retards, stupid, and clowns without knowting anything about them is not what responsible, mature men do. That is unfortunately, the kind of behavior that Tate et al support, and I encourgage you to do better.
"Brother" - stop it, get some help. "... yes Biden did a poor job in sympathizing with and communicating about people who were in real pain" - what the fuck? And you retard are saying that you care about men, no, you don't, you are worse then tate and a bunch. "The research on this is deep and easily available. Here is a good summary paper if you want to examine the evidence:" - fuck me, if you think that this is "good" research, then no, I am not wasting my time with you and I dont have time to read 47 pages paper and debunked it. (and of course it is funny that most of authors are women) "In 92% of studies, suppreing your emotions and not asking for help appeared to increase suicide risk. That shit builds up over time, leading to more frustration, lonliness, and anger. I see this shit every fucking day on my job. Its real, and these assholes that propogate it are getting people killed." - again retard, are you seriously saying that every men that killed himself was watching tate and a bunch and their videos was the reason? You cant be that delusional. From the paper "We noted an
association between cultural norms of masculinity and suicide risk in 96% of studies. Norms relating to male emotional suppression, failing to meet standards of male success, and the devaluing of men’s interpersonal needs appeared to be associated with dysregulated psychological pain and suicide risk. Although masculinity is not pathological, we speculate that the interaction and accumulation of cultural harms to men’s emotions, self, and interpersonal connections may potentially distinguish men who are suicidal from men who are no" - first trigger word - association - is not causation and these social science retards always do this bs they dont prove anything just finds association and spews it like it is causation. Then we have next trigger word "speculate", so authors of paper fantasize about something and it just proves something . It just sad that person like you "helps men" because there is no change that you can change things to better. "Men are 3.5% more likely to commite suicide as women. Here is the information from the CDC" - seems wrong, it maybe should be like 3.5 times. "But another big issue here is this: I try and engage in these forums to learn things with respectful conversation... becuase my old man (a 25 year paratrooper combat vet) taught me that was an intensenly masculine value. Calling people retards, stupid, and clowns without knowting anything about them is not what responsible, mature men do." - see the problem is that for example i never call Tom Golden are retard because he dont deserve, you do, it is insane that you talk about that you care about men, but every sentences shows you dont, you have delusional ideas based on nothing/ wrong info. "That is unfortunately, the kind of behavior that Tate et al support" - here we have your whole stupidity on display because I dont watch Tate/Gaines/Sneako/Fuentes, so it is not them makes me call you retard? Then who? "and I encourgage you to do better." - I am, i dont call people names when they dont deserve, i do when they deserve and especially when they are lying. So I am not going read your comments anymore so dont waste your time answering, but i will wish you good luck and especially get out of current delusional state and maybe in the future there will be possible to discuss about problems and real solutions.
I'd like to see more commissions looking at men's issues. The VA commission was a legislature initiative; but at least Spanberger signed it. I wouldn't say that makes her an exemplar of supporting policies for men.
This is much bigger than politics. If you're primary concern is winning elections I'd say you're not really about supporting men.
I spent 20+ years in politics becuase I wanted to help people. That should be the main concern. The fact that doing so leads to a better electoral situation is a side effect... but also an argument that holds water for the left. Spangenberger and Sherrill also did a good job in their elections supporting housing reform, which is one of young men's top concerns. If they can get stuff done, it will both make life tangibly better for men and be good politics. When Trump was presented with an bill that would do some good stuff on this issue he responsed with... silence. https://www.politico.com/news/2026/03/12/housing-trump-affordability-midterms-gop-00825096
I'm mostly non-political. A lot of the content on the left and three right is about motivating young men for political gain. That's not real concern for young men.
In the last general election, the dems had a website about all the identity groups they were working for; women, LGBT+, minorities, disabled, immigrants, etc. But there was one group conspicuously excluded from that list. You know, evil men.
I'm glad to hear some governors are supporting programs for men. Frankly, I want aware of that.
I will also say, they have taken it down. They didn't put something back up yet, but at least recognzing the problem is a step in the right direction.
And if you want to see some of the programs Dem Governors are looking at, you can see it in the second half of this post: https://billymac14.substack.com/p/men-and-the-midterms. They need to do more, but again its a start.
This video may cost up to $10 today. But soon it'll cost 10 cents. At which point, we'll ramp up quality and quantity.
The animus possessed BPD spectrum women are acting out in private, and increasingly through the inflated form known as political feminism.
But the man, the patriarch, God the father, and logos will take form as they summon him, and he'll pass her shit test at every level.
The billions of maternal infanticides will be commemorated. And men are good will be a red letter day celebrating the valour and sacrifice of our leaders, the men who wear authority, dignity, and virtue. As they bear the heavy weight of wisdom and power that they sacrifice themselves to.
Feminism is not about equality in any way whatsoever!
Equality is a 1-way street with feminists, THEIR way only!
It is an ideology based on nothing but hatred of men and boys and is really all about power and SPECIAL STATUS FOR WOMEN IN ALL THINGS
Regarding mostly Democrat governors "helping" young men, that may just be a cleverly disguised way to get them to accept their fate as second class citizens more cheerfully. I fear the Greeks even when they bring gifts.
If men like Jordan Peterson were taken more seriously maybe nobody would listen to the Tates and their ilk.
So getting men better shots at education and good jobs is making them second class citizens? Addressing our health care needs in real and effective ways makes us lesser? I am sorry, but this argument doesn't make sense to me. If we ask our leaders to take problems with men & boys seriously, and they start to do so, it should be met with some applause and an ask to do more... not derision.
As for Jordan Peterson, some of his stuff invovling discipline and structure is spot on. But when he continues with women invite sexual harassment by wearing lipstick... that is when I stop taking him seriously.
It is yet to be seen whether programs for men will actually focus on getting them "better shots at education and good jobs." Abolishing all affirmative action and equity programs in education and hiring so that men can compete on merit--and getting rid of feminist propaganda generally--would be a far better and simpler action that I don't suppose, a single Democrat or Republican will venture upon. Abolishing no-fault divorce and the accompanying bias against men in the family courts, leading to boys raised by single mothers, would also be a no-brainer that neither conservatives nor liberals can manage to grasp.
I suspect, with Paul M, that most programs for boys and men will focus on making them into good little feminists who do whatever their wives or girlfriends tell them and, later, pay their child support promptly without expecting to see their stolen children.
No fault divorce has been shown definitively to decrease suicides by women, domestic violence by both genders, and murder by statistically significant margins... https://users.nber.org/~jwolfers/Papers/bargaining_in_the_shadow_of_the_law.pdf
Let's say that no fault divorce is hypethically gotten rid of to make child custody more equitable in case of a split. What is your solution then to the increased harm caused by people staying in terrible marriages?
Be a little smarter about who you marry.
Some notes about the paper "BARGAINING IN THE SHADOW OF THE LAW: DIVORCE LAWS AND FAMILY DISTRESS"
Written by Betsey Stevenson and Justin Wolfers a couple with two children. The couple are not themselves married. They are primarily economists, so narrowly focused they even use economic terms like 'input' and 'output' for describing dealing with their children's diapers.
Note: they are not counsellors, they are not sociologists. They are economists praised in the New York Times for having "a remarkable ability to render economic concepts in simple terms" (this does not invalidate what they have to say, but it might make you wary when reading a paper on marriage from them).
Personally I am wary of any paper with meaningless tautological sentences like this one: "The people most likely to benefit from unilateral divorce are therefore those who stand to gain the most from having the option to exit their relationship."
They conclude that "Averaging the effects over the twenty years following [introduction of no-fault divorce] suggests an aggregate decline of 5–10 percent" Yet they admit that violence was on the decline anyway. They partially address this issue on p278.
Some of the references they cite are good. These include work by Gelles, Richard J., and Murray A. Straus; and the United States Department of Health and Human Services. Some sources have been generally discredited in the main (though not necessarily in the specific in which they are being used).
A distinct weakness of the report is that they only consider data from the USA. Had they researched other nations as well, the findings might have been able to have a stronger implication, as it would have gone a certain way to removing the obvious fact that a few percentage change over a generation cannot be tied to any single event very reliably. A U.S. state that brings in no-fault divorce, for example, is probably also bringing in more women's shelters at the same time. One would certainly hope that the billions of tax dollars spent on women's shelters over this time is having some effect on female suicide rate.
Over the study period, it seems that partner murders of men has risen dramatically. Again, there are going yo be many other reasons for this, including the incease in female entitlement. Yet if the figures are going to be taken as purely single cause, this increase should warn that no-fault divorce is dangerous.
I found no reliable correlation between those who commit suicide and those who had failed to exit divorce. It simply cannot be said that this paper shows that no fault divorce has been shown in any way to decrease suicides by women, or domestic violence by either sex, or murders.
There is no mention of the impact of no-fault divorce on children. Given the volume of evidence that divroce generally does a great deal of harm to children, this is a huge gap.
Refs:
https://web.archive.org/web/2/https://users.nber.org/~jwolfers/Papers/bargaining_in_the_shadow_of_the_law.pdf
https://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/12/business/economics-of-family-life-as-taught-by-a-power-couple.html
some women do dress like sex objects. i agree with Jordon Peterson.
So they are responsible for their own rapes? I am sorry, brother, but that is not right
They are responsible for tormenting, if there was a famine and you walked around with cart full of food you couldn't blame anyone for trying to take a bite.
So you honestly think wearing lipstick is tomenting enough to justify violently raping a woman? Dude... it's not. Real men accept the responsibility that we are bigger and stronger than most women. Assaulting them is the action of weak, small boys who never grew up.
Wearing lipstick is nothing but some women look like sex and they talk about sex a lot, i knew 2 women like that but i wouldnt even speak to them, i have no time for torments.
He did not say that!
Right My Dudes; there is far more to it than women dressing like sex objects, that's the superficial part, the much more covert/overt part is their own behaviour.
Even though I am going to get crucified for saying this, although it doesn't apply to all cases, it can be her behaviour, the sexual signalling, the sexual teasing and promising sex, but not delivering, that will put some women at risk of being sexually assaulted.
There is never an excuse for a man to phsycally assaulty a women. We are not mindless thugs, and any "reason" or "excuse" is wrong. I don't care if a women walks into a frat house naked. Saying “makeup is very provocative” like Peterson did is giving excused for male behaviour.
"Saying “makeup is very provocative” like Peterson did is giving excused for male behaviour."
NO he is not, that is your projection.
Before this degenerates any further, there are some very dangerous people in our society of both genders. There are men and women who, at this very moment, should never be released from prison.
They simply do not care.
Whether you like it or not, the courtship dance is very much about how a woman dresses, the makeup she wears, and her behaviour is about sexual signalling.
If men en masse had ignored all this "signalling behaviour", the vast majority of us would never have been conceived.
I agree that no one should use "Force", and the use of "Force" in this context is not justifiable.
Nice work! The first thing I thought of when I saw the title was Edyie Gormé's Blame it on the Bossa Nova. I think some perversion of that song would be dynamite as well.
I think women and beta men are getting too wrapped up examining their own bowel movements about the manosphere. We are doing just fine, thank you very much. We are going our own way, minding our own business, and the rest of you need to just get a grip. If you get a little bit lonesome, you will find us in the Philippines, Thailand, or the Ukraine, looking for, finding, and marrying-up feminine women who realize that marriage is a partnership and that each partner needs to bring something to the table more than just chaos and dependency. Have a nice life and enjoy your cats. We'll be over here making a life for ourselves.
Thanks James. Blame it on the man a sphere a? lol
Excellent!
Thanks Stephen.
Thanks, Tom. This is great. Sometimes it's best to just step back and laugh at the craziness.
Laughing at feminists and feminism is important.
What a fantastic song!
Thank you, sir!
Thank you Michael!
Tom, I love it, and hopefully it becomes a hit!
Brilliant. Love it. So true.
Sorry, but this is dead wrong. The values that these Manosphere types share about mental health, where domination and conquering are seen as the cure rather than asking for help and keeping good friends around, is resulting in more dead dudes. Our rates of suicide and overdose death are too high, and these guys are making the problem worse.
RMD, you have internalized the liberal / progressive framing of the manosphere; and they are using a few bad actors to tarnish the all parts of the male-space community.
You have a social media presence (“Right My Dudes”). You are the manosphere.
Brother, who is "they"? I've always considered myself a fairly progressive guy, and while there are real issues with male spaces, educational problems, and jobs that need to be addressed... who are the people actually doing the addressing? Five Governors seem to be doing real work here; Moore, Cox, Spangenberger, Whitmer, and Newsom. Four of those are D's and three are women. If you want to put some of the Southern states in this with their education/reading reforms for kids, I will give you that. As for Trump, he is screwing guys left and right. We've lost manufacturing jobs, and registered apprenticeships (mostly in the trades and mostly dudes) are down for the first time in years. As for the framing of the manosphere, that is an interesting point. I guess you could consider Galloway, Reeves, Glazer, the Pod Save guys, and to a WAY lesser extent guys like me as part of it. But the Tate/Gaines/Sneako/Fuentes boys who blame women for all of their problems are wrong and dangerous... and, respectfully, they need to opposed as much as possible. They are some of the most popular social media accounts, and their grift (that part of the documentary was spot on) is killing men. I work with dudes in the construction trades, who along with mining have the higest suicide and death by od rates by population in the country. Those assholes are making things worse.
"I've always considered myself a fairly progressive guy" - RED ALERT, RED ALERT. "while there are real issues with male spaces, educational problems, and jobs that need to be addressed" - oh really but Patriarchy so men cant have problems? What? " who are the people actually doing the addressing? Five Governors seem to be doing real work here; Moore, Cox, Spangenberger, Whitmer, and Newsom. Four of those are D's and three are women" - nope, but I left space for miracles, but not hoping for much as scum Newsom does not care about men only if it is good politically. "As for Trump, he is screwing guys left and right. We've lost manufacturing jobs, and registered apprenticeships (mostly in the trades and mostly dudes) are down for the first time in years." - ok, but do you do the same for biden when they lied about I think like 1 million jobs that later was showed dont exist? "As for the framing of the manosphere, that is an interesting point. I guess you could consider Galloway, Reeves, Glazer, the Pod Save guys, and to a WAY lesser extent guys like me as part of it" - clowns who dont care about men just to look good feminist that see men as not as men having problems but as problem that have to be solved and this is very big difference. "But the Tate/Gaines/Sneako/Fuentes boys who blame women for all of their problems are wrong and dangerous" - this is retard level generalisation, but I have admit, i dont follow all of them, so maybe. "and, respectfully, they need to opposed as much as possible." - first thing that we can agree on. "They are some of the most popular social media accounts, and their grift (that part of the documentary was spot on) is killing men" - no, it is not. Not sure what documentary, but it seems it is useless with stupid conclusion like this (fantasy like Adolesence). "I work with dudes in the construction trades, who along with mining have the higest suicide and death by od rates by population in the country. Those assholes are making things worse." - ok, this seems wrong, but do have any evidence/proof that Tate/Gaines/Sneako/Fuentes are responsible for all (not fucking like one or 2) suicides of men? and also this sentence shows your level of stupidity that you are blaming Tate/Gaines/Sneako/Fuentes and not obviously reason why mentioned in sentence.
Andrejus - Spot on. Kinda like when people say, "I support the Second Amendment BUT..." RED FREAKIN ALERT
Brother... yes Biden did a poor job in sympathizing with and communicating about people who were in real pain. On this we can agree. While he also did a good job putting money into programs that employ ment, he didn't address the chronic red tape that got in the way of it getting out to people.
As for the suicide issues, here are direct quotes by some of the afromentioned "influencers".
Andrew Tate- Depression isn’t real. People saying they’re depressed are “weak cowards”.
Sneako - Anyone who takes antidepressants isn’t “a real man”.
Myron Gaines- Guys are sad only because they are “a fucking bitch”.
The research on this is deep and easily available. Here is a good summary paper if you want to examine the evidence: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/373746068_Male_suicide_risk_and_recovery_factors_A_systematic_review_and_qualitative_metasynthesis_of_two_decades_of_research
In 92% of studies, suppreing your emotions and not asking for help appeared to increase suicide risk. That shit builds up over time, leading to more frustration, lonliness, and anger. I see this shit every fucking day on my job. Its real, and these assholes that propogate it are getting people killed. Men are 3.5% more likely to commite suicide as women. Here is the information from the CDC. https://afsp.org/suicide-statistics/
But another big issue here is this: I try and engage in these forums to learn things with respectful conversation... becuase my old man (a 25 year paratrooper combat vet) taught me that was an intensenly masculine value. Calling people retards, stupid, and clowns without knowting anything about them is not what responsible, mature men do. That is unfortunately, the kind of behavior that Tate et al support, and I encourgage you to do better.
"Brother" - stop it, get some help. "... yes Biden did a poor job in sympathizing with and communicating about people who were in real pain" - what the fuck? And you retard are saying that you care about men, no, you don't, you are worse then tate and a bunch. "The research on this is deep and easily available. Here is a good summary paper if you want to examine the evidence:" - fuck me, if you think that this is "good" research, then no, I am not wasting my time with you and I dont have time to read 47 pages paper and debunked it. (and of course it is funny that most of authors are women) "In 92% of studies, suppreing your emotions and not asking for help appeared to increase suicide risk. That shit builds up over time, leading to more frustration, lonliness, and anger. I see this shit every fucking day on my job. Its real, and these assholes that propogate it are getting people killed." - again retard, are you seriously saying that every men that killed himself was watching tate and a bunch and their videos was the reason? You cant be that delusional. From the paper "We noted an
association between cultural norms of masculinity and suicide risk in 96% of studies. Norms relating to male emotional suppression, failing to meet standards of male success, and the devaluing of men’s interpersonal needs appeared to be associated with dysregulated psychological pain and suicide risk. Although masculinity is not pathological, we speculate that the interaction and accumulation of cultural harms to men’s emotions, self, and interpersonal connections may potentially distinguish men who are suicidal from men who are no" - first trigger word - association - is not causation and these social science retards always do this bs they dont prove anything just finds association and spews it like it is causation. Then we have next trigger word "speculate", so authors of paper fantasize about something and it just proves something . It just sad that person like you "helps men" because there is no change that you can change things to better. "Men are 3.5% more likely to commite suicide as women. Here is the information from the CDC" - seems wrong, it maybe should be like 3.5 times. "But another big issue here is this: I try and engage in these forums to learn things with respectful conversation... becuase my old man (a 25 year paratrooper combat vet) taught me that was an intensenly masculine value. Calling people retards, stupid, and clowns without knowting anything about them is not what responsible, mature men do." - see the problem is that for example i never call Tom Golden are retard because he dont deserve, you do, it is insane that you talk about that you care about men, but every sentences shows you dont, you have delusional ideas based on nothing/ wrong info. "That is unfortunately, the kind of behavior that Tate et al support" - here we have your whole stupidity on display because I dont watch Tate/Gaines/Sneako/Fuentes, so it is not them makes me call you retard? Then who? "and I encourgage you to do better." - I am, i dont call people names when they dont deserve, i do when they deserve and especially when they are lying. So I am not going read your comments anymore so dont waste your time answering, but i will wish you good luck and especially get out of current delusional state and maybe in the future there will be possible to discuss about problems and real solutions.
I'd like to see more commissions looking at men's issues. The VA commission was a legislature initiative; but at least Spanberger signed it. I wouldn't say that makes her an exemplar of supporting policies for men.
This is much bigger than politics. If you're primary concern is winning elections I'd say you're not really about supporting men.
I spent 20+ years in politics becuase I wanted to help people. That should be the main concern. The fact that doing so leads to a better electoral situation is a side effect... but also an argument that holds water for the left. Spangenberger and Sherrill also did a good job in their elections supporting housing reform, which is one of young men's top concerns. If they can get stuff done, it will both make life tangibly better for men and be good politics. When Trump was presented with an bill that would do some good stuff on this issue he responsed with... silence. https://www.politico.com/news/2026/03/12/housing-trump-affordability-midterms-gop-00825096
I'm mostly non-political. A lot of the content on the left and three right is about motivating young men for political gain. That's not real concern for young men.
In the last general election, the dems had a website about all the identity groups they were working for; women, LGBT+, minorities, disabled, immigrants, etc. But there was one group conspicuously excluded from that list. You know, evil men.
I'm glad to hear some governors are supporting programs for men. Frankly, I want aware of that.
Yessir. It's a big point and I am fully aware of that... and I addressed it in my upcoming book. You can see the draft Chapter with that part in it here: https://billymac14.substack.com/p/right-my-dudes-now-what-chapter-19
I will also say, they have taken it down. They didn't put something back up yet, but at least recognzing the problem is a step in the right direction.
And if you want to see some of the programs Dem Governors are looking at, you can see it in the second half of this post: https://billymac14.substack.com/p/men-and-the-midterms. They need to do more, but again its a start.
This is so wrong on so many level that is not funny anymore.
This video may cost up to $10 today. But soon it'll cost 10 cents. At which point, we'll ramp up quality and quantity.
The animus possessed BPD spectrum women are acting out in private, and increasingly through the inflated form known as political feminism.
But the man, the patriarch, God the father, and logos will take form as they summon him, and he'll pass her shit test at every level.
The billions of maternal infanticides will be commemorated. And men are good will be a red letter day celebrating the valour and sacrifice of our leaders, the men who wear authority, dignity, and virtue. As they bear the heavy weight of wisdom and power that they sacrifice themselves to.
for the next song Israel deserves a mention here
Nice work!! Also concluded, a la' The View, that to many feminists, vicimhood is central to their identity, and they will NEVER let it go.