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Alan Lee Starner's avatar

Yes, women get support, encouragement and compassion. Men get scrutiny, rules, and accountability. That is gynocentrism.

David Stanley Lavery's avatar

Thats what Feminists wanted, equality but only for women.

Greg Allan's avatar

Time and again I asked "Equal to what?" and never did get an answer.

David Stanley Lavery's avatar

Equal rights supposedly but only where it suits them.

Alan Lee Starner's avatar

I don't think most feminists have really thought it through. My take is that they have internalized a narrative that women have been oppressed, and when they say that want equality, it maps to wanting to "even the score". Many have recognized that it's not about equal rights under the law -women have had that for at least 50 years, and actually the law favors women in many ways (no selective service, bias in the courts, special programs to help women, and potential lawsuits if they don't hire enough women into top jobs). Feminism is about vengeance - no wonder feminist can't create stable relationships with men.

ProfessorTom's avatar

Silly boy. He should be publicly whipped for asking such a stupid question and wasting her time.

DouglasEW's avatar

Britain is already there. The central government decided it would, after many years campaigning by the MRM and other concerned organisations, set aside a paltry proportion of its DV budget for a men's helpline. A number of male-centric organisations applied, including the one and only charity to run some shelter spaces specifically for men. The contract went instead to a feminist organisation. Phone them up and one of the questions they will ask is likely to be "What did you do to provoke her to attack you?" and, of course, they won't refer you on to support services such as those run by Mankind who will genuinely try, with very limited funds, to help you as a man and maybe a father wanting to protect your children.

I think only India has it worse that Australia/UK in this area, though the USA, Italy and Japan are contenders.

Jamie's avatar

I think this needs to go onto the episode with Tom, Hannah, Janice and James Nuzzo https://menaregood.substack.com/p/feminist-buzzwords I think James Nuzzo mentions about them gunning for Hetero White Males : something like that.

I've wanted to mention FLINTA* for some time.

"Frauen, Lesben, Intergeschlechtliche, nichtbinäre, trans und agender Personen", meaning women, lesbians, intersex, non-binary, trans and agender people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLINTA*

The asterisk represents all non-binary gender identities.

To explicitly include queer individuals, the term FLINTAQ is sometimes used.

Maybe people aren't interested in this because it all sounds terribly LGBTQI++++++, but read it. Read it line for line and think about the consequences. Think about what it might actually mean.

Men are left out. Gay men are left out, UNLESS they/I identify as 'queer' and then MAGICALLY men/I'm included as a white male who is homosexual.

How convenient.

How convenient to exclude people then include but not MEN.

How convenient that non-binary gender identities are included.

Then later we have: FLT* — Women/Female, Lesbians, Trans*

All of a sudden Trans are included! That meant TransWomen - Biological Men who identify / live as Women. but now we see Female Spaces upsetting the apple cart.

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/various/bern-police-take-a-trans-woman-from-marzilibad-into-custody/91667947

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/demographics/a-skirmish-at-a-swiss-swimming-pool-prompts-debate-on-womens-versus-trans-rights/91686194

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/swiss-abroad-community/switzerland-today/91671853

This shows how up and down the whole Gender and Feminist ++++ movement is.

They change goal posts regularly.

The the poor intersexed people get dragged into their web of deception. An intersex person, a friend, told me recently that 'I'm not Trans and do not want to be known as Trans'.

I was shocked reading this over a year ago, as a gay man.

Now I read it again and it is clear. This is proof:

That, this is an attack on Males, and Men who are heterosexual and possibly only White Males.

Your short videos are fantastic Tom. To the point.

Conrad Riker's avatar

He can use the door for the only group of lifetime net tax payers who enforce rights for everyone.

Guest007's avatar

One may want to provide a cite that says that Asian-American women are a net drain on tax dollars or college educated non-Hispanic white females. Also, I doubt if black men are a net payer of taxes. Hispanic males are probably break even while Asian-American males are higher net payers versus non-Hispanic white males.

Greg Allan's avatar

We don't all live in the US.

Conrad Riker's avatar

Denmark has big national level data on which ethnicities support the national budget and which permanently take more than they return.

But it's simpler for men versus women, since men are the only net lifetime tax paying group without considering multi ethnic states.

Women have majority Suffrage which is obviously a mistake because they use it to drive up taxes son men for their own welfare entitlements.

This would be true of any majority ethnicity that pays negative lifetime taxes due to not engaging in the formal economy. I imagine Somali land Minnesota could achieve this in parts via Lering centers.

Guest007's avatar

Once again, one may want to provide a link to the cite about Denmark. And creating a situation where women do not have to pay taxes because their vote has been taken away would be a huge political mistake. Most parents do not want their daughters to be second class citizens anymore.

L Thompson's avatar

A woman facing hardship; "it's society, it's the patriarchy, we must build institutions and systems of support." A man (or boy) facing hardship; "they made bad choices, they did not apply themselves, they are responsible and it isn't on society to build institutions because they are privileged. If they kill themselves it's because they are impulsive gun nuts"

When a few women rise to the top; "Women can do anything they set their mind too. They had to work twice as hard as any man. You go girl!" When a man rises to the top; "he was privileged and bolstered by the patriarchy, and because there are more male CEOs that means all men down to the ones dying of black lung in the mines trying to feed their families are privileged and only want to hold on to power."

Concerned Male's avatar

The proof is OVERWHELMING!

US but same in ALL western societies

There is a HUGE BIAS IN FAVOUR OF WOMEN in courts

Men receive sentences in criminal cases that are 63% higher than women for the same crimes

Prof. Starr's research shows large unexplained gender disparities in federal criminal cases

https://repository.law.umich.edu/law_econ_current/57/

DouglasEW's avatar

UK Prisoners – The Genders Compared

https://empathygap.uk/?p=215

UK Prisoners by Sex: a partial guide to data, and efforts by the MRM and a national politician since 2012 to get equality under the law

https://empathygap.uk/?p=2031

Concerned Male's avatar

Has Gender Tribalism Destroyed Accountability in Court?

Will Cain tackles the alarming cultural shift toward gender tribalism surrounding accountability and legal defenses in high-profile criminal cases. He breaks down how public sympathy, moral responsibility, and courtroom narratives are being reshaped, questioning whether modern society has reached a breaking point on justice and personal responsibility.

https://www.tiktok.com/@willcainshow/video/7681025985210354975?_r=1&_t=ZS-99SgralP70E

Concerned Male's avatar

Justice System Discrimination and Myth That Sexism Against Men Isn’t Institutional

Justice system is more severe on men than women.

. less likelihood of arrest

. less chance of pretrial detention

. lower bail amount

. less chance and length of jail-time

https://becauseits2015.wordpress.com/2017/01/29/justice-system-discrimination-and-the-myth-that-sexism-against-men-isnt-institutional/

Concerned Male's avatar

A study published in the Journal of Criminal Justice that looked at gender disparities in pretrial release and in jail sentencing decisions found that women are;

*46% less likely than men to held in jail prior to trial

*bonds were 54% lower than men's

*58% LESS LIKELY TO BE SENT TO PRISON

*males twice as likely to be given a full-time prison term

https://journalistsresource.org/criminal-justice/courts-lenient-sentencing-bond-women/

Concerned Male's avatar

TWO TIERED so called "justice system" in the UK

Associations between being male or female and being sentenced to prison in

Under similar criminal circumstances the odds of imprisonment for males were higher

compared to females – 88%

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5a7f812ced915d74e622adf5/associations-between-sex-and-sentencing-to-prison.pdf

Concerned Male's avatar

When did accountability became gender specific? It has ALWAYS been gender specific and it manifests itself in all aspects of western society, especially in the courts. Women are not held accountable for their actions like men are.

Abuse has no gender. Women are not help accountable. Excuses are always made for violent women

https://www.tiktok.com/@themanicuredmom/video/7657405583011712270?_r=1&_t=ZS-97gWxLP1ZO3

DouglasEW's avatar

It makes me angry when people — even those who have been around the MRM for years — come out with the idea that feminism was ever necessary to get women equal to men. MEN HAVE NEVER HAD equality with women, ever.

Greg Allan's avatar

A woman's voice reminds me to serve and not to speak. - Steely Dan (from sometime back in the seventies)

Concerned Male's avatar

AND it applies to ALL AREAS OF LAW

Laws do not apply to women who have sex with those not able to give legal consent.

Hot For Teacher: Gender Bias in Sentencing of Teachers that have Sex with Their Students

http://campbelllawobserver.com/hot-for-teacher-gender-bias-in-sentencing-of-teachers-that-have-sex-with-their-students/?fbclid=IwAR1NyW3LCsoZBOB8MMbnElFLkPNsHt1wSUQ7HtEBIXoXlJjml1Z66rg73uY

Concerned Male's avatar

The usual

Women are NOT accountable for their actions

UK but the same anti-male bias everywhere in the western world

Old but likely even worse today!

Judges ordered to SHOW MORE MERCY ON WOMEN CRIMINALS when deciding sentences

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1311004/Judges-ordered-mercy-women-criminals-deciding-sentences.html

DouglasEW's avatar

It's not just about the presumption of innocence. As a retired policeman explained to me some years ago:

- The police are often motivated, emotionally as well as practically, by achieving a reduction in crime (yes, yes...this is an entire discussion on its own) and getting criminals off the streets;

- Police have limited resources and cannot put endless resources to solve every crime;

- Public prosecutors are less likely to charge a woman than a man;

- The courts are less likely to convict a woman than a man (don't blame this just on judges: juries are to blame, too);

- The courts are less likely to imprison a convicted woman than a man;

- The courts will regularly sentence a woman to a lower sentence than a man (don't blame this necessarily on judges: they are often working to sex-biased instructions they have to work to, and male judges are more sex-biased than female judges);

- The prison service are likely to release a woman out proportionally earlier in her sentence than a man.

(In the UK, for example, if men were treated the same as women, there would only be about one seventh of the men currently in prison.)

So, for the police to reduce crime on the street and meet their targets of the number of people arrested, charged and convicted (this is tracked in most Western nations at some level of policing) there is one obvious way to do this with a limited resource:

- if the victim or witnesses indicate a male might be the offender, chase that one

- but if the offender seems to be a woman, only chase that down if it is a simple, straightforward case.

The problem lies not just in one place, though politically we might concentrate on that. The real problem is society at large and politicians specifically, as they allow this situation. Remember: women are the majority voter and even men in general will shy away from making even a criminal woman's life harder.