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Mike Buchanan's avatar

Thanks for a very insightful discussion. A really nice chemistry has developed between the four of you.

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Tom Golden's avatar

Thanks Mike!

David Stanley Lavery's avatar

What evil bastards Feminists are, they practice anti male sexism yet they say they want equality, I would love to force them to fight on a battlefield so they could experience the privilege they say men have. .

Concerned Male's avatar

Feminism is not about equality in any way whatsoever!

Equality is a 1-way street with feminists, THEIR way only!

It is an ideology based on nothing but hatred of men and boys and is really all about power and SPECIAL STATUS FOR WOMEN IN ALL THINGS

Feminism is the largest hate movement the world has ever seen

They hate 1/2 of world’s entire population

Sadredin Moosavi's avatar

Actually they hate more than half as they hate children and many women as well!

jantje's avatar

Did you notice the text on the drink at 7:18

I think is says:Please do not annoy the writer, she may put you in a book and kill you.

She is absolutely holding her cup the way she does so we can see the message.

Talking about passive aggressive behavior 😂 while talking bs about "weaponizing incompetence".

Guess who I think is weaponizing everything?

Tom Golden's avatar

Yup, agree.

It is amazing how brazen these people are. What sort of world view does one need to act like that?

Will Whitman's avatar

Being exposed to floridly neurotic feminists such as these is both informative and sad as they hop on the doom-loop of narcissism. That said, this exposure is the best disinfectant.

Tom Golden's avatar

Love that phrase! "doom-loop of narcissism". Says it all.

Henry Solospiritus's avatar

Meetings in the basement of Harvard Humanities are where the girls mix their potions.

Steve M's avatar

That is the extent of “science” practiced at Harvard theses days. when females run institutions, they are destroyed with herd based incompetence.

James Wills's avatar

They say that engineers use their personalities for birth control; as such an engineer, I see sex and marriage as a simple first-order problem to be solved, to wit:

Men are analogous to any system under pressure - the pressure to reproduce, to have a family, but more immediately the pressure to relieve sexual tension on a regular basis - something in constant conflict with female physiology, the upshot of which is that men are in a continuous state of submission. That's not their nature.

All hydraulic systems have pressure-relief valves; else-wise all sorts of unpleasantries ensue. It's the same for men's hydraulics; in the past, brothels were well understood as a necessary relief valve, but nowadays women-sponsored laws enforce a relative wife/girlfriend monopoly on sex. Nice going, girls. "Family law" court also serves to keep men in line with the constant threat of loss: loss of children, loss of resources gained by years of work. Why do you think 80% of divorces are filed by the woman, 90% if she's college-educated?

Well, it looks like men are trapped; so what to do? As a twice-divorced financially-intact septugenarian, the risk/benefit ratio of marriage is icily clear to me. The benefit of gradually-reducing hydraulic pressure from diminishing testosterone makes the choice to remain single a trivial one for me, but what's a young man to do?

Women have the advantage of a relative monopoly on sexual access, but men have their own asset: they are problem-solvers - and boy howdy are they solving the problem! They are dusting off their passports and heading to the Philippines, Thailand, The Ukraine as fast as their little jet engines will take them, bringing home pretty, petite, submissive women who want to serve their families instead of girl-bossing at corporations who couldn't care less if they lived or died.

That's a short-term fix. Then there are those lovely, pervy Japanese, who are working at breakneck speed on sex robots. I'm holding out for one of those. I am well and truly past arguing.

Jeff Golden's avatar

James, you are a septugenarian. I, an octogenarian, have you beat. I'm also twice divorced, and I'm a founder of a support and self-help group for victims of family court.

I don't know why anyone gets married ever. There is nothing in this world that you can do married that you can't do single ... except get divorced. As Albert Einstein said, "Women marry men hoping they will change. Men marry women hoping they will not. So each is inevitably disappointed.”

As for those who import wives from Asia or Eastern Europe ... once those women get to the U.S. and start watching daytime TV, or talking with the neighbor women, and learn about divorce American style, it's just a matter of time before the submissive ends. And once she is getting that American alimony check, she realizes that if she just takes it back to her home country she can live like a queen. But those are the fortunate guys. Some wind up incarcerated or dead.

So, as for relieving that hydraulic pressure, it's still cheaper to rent than to buy.

James Wills's avatar

Points well-taken. I am just going by personal experience. Couple of things: I know multiple mixed-nation couples, including a nephew with a Filipina wife. All are ecstatic, including the women, and I attribute that to two things: the women's upbringings, of course, and church-going, where boys and girls - later to become men and women - learn service instead of self-absorption. And of course, in the strongly Catholic Philippines there is no divorce, so that sort of mindset - marriage is a sacrament and is for life - is baked into the cake.

These women are not only solid in their convictions, they are smart. I have known two cases of divorce, both brought by the naturalized women. In each case I had known the men since childhood, and both were horses-asses and treated the women poorly. It was THEY who took advantage of the women they brought to America, and they were very-appropriately dumped.

Now that it's too late, I like to think that I understand marriage and what it's about. It's about service - serving others through skills that you not only know, but are natural to your sex. Men are still doing that; women - specifically Western women - are not. Men are still inventing, building, and maintaining the world. Women, by virtue of men's invention of labor-saving devices and birth control, have been freed of the twin responsibilities of child-rearing and maintaining a home for their family. They have a lot of time on their hands and are casting about for other things to control. If you want to see how that's going, take a look at the American House of Representatives' infamous "Squad" or companies run by female CEOs. (HP under Carly Fiorina comes to mind.) The corporate roads are littered with their little squirrel bodies. Thus are the wages of attempting to thwart nature.

Tom Golden's avatar

Bingo! " later to become men and women - learn service instead of self-absorption." Exactly. This is what brings closeness and love.

Tom Golden's avatar

Great Einstein quote! Good to see a Golden. Do you have a link to your org?

Steve M's avatar

females evolved as possessions of men. Men have awoken and seen the terrible outcomes from female leadership. Now women that do not come correct will be rejected. I keep my partner according to nature and she agrees. femimism is over.

Tom Golden's avatar

Let's hope you are right. It can't happen quickly enough.

Steve M's avatar

We agree in that regard. I haved my woman and we both feel blessed as we watch society fail around us.

females destroy everything they can control or influence. They evolved as possessions of men and are incompetent at life without a man.

Humdinger's Cat's avatar

Social media is, sadly, very infantalising for some people. A lot of these terms are spread by 'school girls' in adult bodies - all parroting the latest trends. They know this will get them approved and accepted into the cool girls' gang. So these terms spread like easily. 'De-centering men' is an easy one to get onboard with. 'Anarcho-feminism' is probably a harder sell. Most will probably settle for 'Micro-feminism' as that's easier to remember.

Phillip Hickox's avatar

"Play Misty for Me", a Clint Eastwood film, is well worthwhile for a revisit.

The short version is about a radio disc jockey who has a female stalker.

Henry Solospiritus's avatar

Perhaps it is time to recognize the feminist narratives for what they are, incantations and personal magic. They are not born from harmony but from chaos!

Steve's avatar

https://youtu.be/1pcFoklVV4U Japanese Men STOPPED Marrying for 30 Years - And the Country Is Falling Apart

Phillip Hickox's avatar

Personally I am sick and tired of the narrative of a "Rape Culture". In order to argue that we do not live in a Rape Culture, I have been trying to develop a counterargument.

Firstly, defining what a culture actually is. using a dictionary definition.

"Culture encompasses the behaviours, ideas, beliefs, and traditions shared by a group of people. It includes language, customs, knowledge, morals, art, and other capabilities and habits acquired as members of society. Culture is unique to Homo sapiens and relies on the ability to use symbols, which are meanings not inherent in themselves but assigned by humans. It is a complex, dynamic system that shapes people's actions and preferences, often unconsciously, through shared values and assumptions." Dictionary Definition

A Criminal Culture.

A Criminal culture, for it to exist. it must first be seen as being acceptable and encouraged by society to engage in criminal activity, such as robbing or murdering people.

The next requirement is whether it is legally acceptable to rob and/or murder people.

The last requirement is that there is no punishment for criminal activity like robbery or murder.

We live in a society where the act of "Rape" is seen as abhorrent and not socially acceptable, in addition, it is against the law, and the legal system punishes people who are convicted of committing the criminal act of "Rape".

To claim we live in a Rape Culture, all the above criteria must apply.

Any suggestions would be great.

Tom Golden's avatar

But that is precisely what they maintain. It is acceptable, encouraged, and without punishment. Go figure.

Sadredin Moosavi's avatar

Actually feminism seeks to create a new culture...Mean Girl Culture based on bullying and false accusations. It is the very opposite of a rape culture unless you consider how women treat men as a form of "rape".

James Wills's avatar

Points well-taken. I am just going by personal experience. Couple of things: I know multiple mixed-nation couples, including a nephew with a Filipina wife. All are ecstatic, including the women, and I attribute that to two things: the women's upbringings, of course, and their church-going, where boys and girls - later to become men and women - learn service instead of self-absorption. And of course, in the strongly Catholic Philippines there is no divorce, so that sort of mindset - marriage is a sacrament and is for life - is baked into the cake.

As for divorce, these women are not only solid in their convictions, they are smart. I have known two cases of divorce, both brought by the naturalized women. In each case I had known the men since childhood, and both were horses-asses and treated the women poorly. It was THEY who took advantage of the women they brought to America, and they were very-appropriately dumped.

Now that it's too late, I like to think that I understand marriage and what it's about. For both men and women, it's about service - serving others through skills that you not only know, but are natural to your sex. Men are still doing that; women - specifically Western women - are not. Men are still inventing, building, and maintaining the world. Women, by virtue of men's invention of labor-saving devices and birth control, have been freed of the twin responsibilities of child-rearing and maintaining a home for their family. They have a lot of time on their hands and are casting about for other things to control. If you want to see how that's going, take a look at the American House of Representatives' infamous "Squad" or companies (HP under Carly Fiorina comes to mind) run by female CEOs. The corporate roads are littered with their little squirrel bodies. Thus are the wages of attempting to thwart nature.

Tom Golden's avatar

Thanks for this comment. Being of service can bring a response of wanting to return the favor. When this happens regularly it creates an upward cycle in relationships that solidifies things. The opposite is much more frequent these days, that when one bitches and complains it brings a similar response which when that happens regularly creates a downward negative cycle that is nearly impossible to escape.

James Wills's avatar

Thanks. Full disclosure: I picked that up from my VRF (very religious friend), with whom I discuss life in general nearly every day. I truly value his friendship - the kind that only two old men can have. He and I discuss the "service heart" in men and women (something that he, in turn, learned in church) on a regular basis.

Our conversations have caused me considerable self-reflection, and I see that a) my two divorces were not all my wives' fault, and b) I am far happier living alone and c) every new day is truly a gift.

Sadredin Moosavi's avatar

Feminism is an extremely narcissistic ideology that has the long term effect of disrupting not only functional families and societies, but especially the ability of a population to reproduce and expand. You see feminism is strongest in the most affluent societies with large populations where survival of the whole is no longer in danger due to local extinction from competing forces...where men would need to defend the society from external threats. Could feminism thus be a bit like what is theorized as the basis for homosexuality?

Studies on rats suggest that rising population density causes long term stress on individual members which have biochemical effects in the brain resulting in various forms of sexual disruption that mimic what is observed in human populations vis a vis homosexuality. Such misfiring of normal sexuality would serve to prevent normal reproduction of many members of the population thereby relieving long term reproductive success at the population level and lowering the stress on the population long term.

If you look at the population level results of feminism...they suppress the male role as protectors and family founders, harm children and result in much less reproduction of the population as women make themselves toxic. Any wildlife manager knows that the most effective way to control a population is to limit the number of breeding females which is why hunting regulations target bucks, does and fawns differently depending on the population level goals of the policy in question. Could feminism be a manifestation of nature responding to over population in otherwise very successful human societies?

Tom Golden's avatar

Interesting question about whether population density impacts the amount and degree of feminism. More feminists in urban areas? hmmm

graham's avatar

holy crap, weaponized incompetence, my wife explained