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Michael McVeigh's avatar

Biology has driven men's emotion into this 'corner' over many, many millennia. The competition for a mate and the need to satisfy that mate.

Men's emotional needs had been, and still to some degree, are satisfied by that mate. However, 2nd & 3rd wave feminism distorted men's proper place in society. That place was one of sacrifice but coupled with great respect. That great respect has all but evaporated - not just by feminism, but by the new world in which we live where women earn more than men in a lot of cases and this phenomenon is set to worsen as more women go to university.

Thanks Tom for your efforts to show men in their true colours.

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Lance Walker's avatar

I work in AI… the service economy is going to be automated away in the next decade, this is already taking place; those degrees are worthless, and everyone knows it.

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PR's avatar

Take into account that is the other way around. Men can, with less investment in education, outearn women (as a group, in the US the gender gap has changed little).

Most grades at the Uni are teachers or things like that that earn not too much. Most men jobs can do better even if It not linked to collage.

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Michael McVeigh's avatar

Agreed, but a lot of men's earnings are driven by their willingness to sacrifice their time and effort to earn more. Longer commuting, more dangerous, more onerous jobs and moving to another job for a slight rise.

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Frank's avatar

Truck driving is a good example of that. It's among the top ten most dangerous jobs in the USA. And it is onerous. Eating at truck stops that only have a McDonalds. And my trainer telling me that we didn't have time to eat, but had to get right back on the road again.

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PR's avatar

The question is why most men decide to be truci drivers instead of lawyers, which are top paid and less risky.

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Frank's avatar

Good question. In my case,the accounting field became 60% female, and they shoved the men out the door. I had to get into a new occupation in a few weeks, and truck driving was the only way to do that. If I had it to do all over again, I would have learned a trade instead of going to college.

But there are safer blue collar jobs too, like cutting trees.

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PR's avatar

Yes, that happens indeed. So, basically, as I was saying in other post, we have reached a point where we are not more equal: we haver conversely discriminated by separate antagonic spheres. Two societies, in each of which men and women are worst off.

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Michael McVeigh's avatar

Generally, men like things and women like people. That's a major reason.

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PR's avatar

I am a lawyer, and I am extremely capable of loving peole. Actually, if you are reading this, is becuase you are emphatic engough to love men and care about them ;)

Men love things, but I do not buy the narrative that we do not love people.

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PR's avatar

Indeed

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Frank's avatar

Thank you, Tom. Excellent work here.

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Sadredin Moosavi's avatar

Part of the problem that men face is that they are being forced to live under a double standards that privileges women (not women and children) over everyone else. Until that ceases to be the case, men will have a hard time healing or gaining access to the support and resources the would address suicide rates. Part of the solution is alluded to in this video...men checking out.I think it needs to go further than just disengagement. Here is an example of how men can regain control over their lives to some degree.

Most people were raised to hold the door for someone following them when entering a building as being the polite thing to do. Men in particular were expected to extend this sort of courtesy to women. Sadly, feminists not only disparage such behavior but women become hostile and nasty when shown this courtesy attacking the man for sexism.

While entering a building at the university in graduate school I attempted to hold the door for the person behind me who turned out to be a feminist women. She attacked me verbally...but stupidly before entering the building. I replied, "OK", pulled the door closed and latched it preventing her from entering by that route. This is how we need to respond to women who behave in a toxic fashion. Not only does it empower men and help their mental health...it exacts a price from feminist women for the hostile conduct they engage in under the guise of feminism.

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Lance Walker's avatar

Petty…

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Sadredin Moosavi's avatar

Yes...the woman's action was petty...and the response was appropriate...not petty but instructive.

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Lance Walker's avatar

You locked her out 🤣. Bro that’s what I used to do to my siblings when I was 10… it’s definitely petty.

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Sadredin Moosavi's avatar

Not at all. Like many university buildings you had essentially double doors separated by a metal pole. The right door, which I was politely holding open for her, would latch upon closing which it would have done had I not been holding it for her. It could only be opened from inside. The adjacent door could be opened from either side when the building was open. After closing the latchable door, I saw the woman try to open it with no success. She did not attempt to open the other door, whether out of ignorance or realizing she had behaved foolishly. The action was hardly petty...it was meant to send a clear message that her unwarranted attack on a man simply affording her a courtesy that would be shown to anyone had the consequence of losing the benefit of cooperation from others in society. In less formal terms...act like a bitch...be treated like a bitch. Hope that clarifies things.

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Lance Walker's avatar

Okay man. 🤣. It’s just funny is all.

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David Stanley Lavery's avatar

I have been added to a list of people at risk of suicide, i have suffered loneliness and depression for most of my life, i have read that chemicals in the brain cause depression but my depression is always caused by rejection from women. i wish i had never been born.

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