Don't underestimate the effect the "manosphere" and "red-pilling" are having these days. Men are fed up with modern Western women and are increasingly depriving those women of the one thing they MUST have: attention. The notion that girls are sugar, spice, and everything nice has gone by the wayside. Having been made aware the dangers of marriage, men are simply not doing it; birth rate - whether legitimate or illegitimate - now won't sustain the population. Michael's - the largest bridal shop in North America - went bankrupt. Men are making it very clear that career women are not wanted, and are simply letting those strong, independent women stew in their own brew.
No, the pendulum always swings. Me? Divorced at 72, I'm a lot smarter. The Red-pill culture has completely disabused me of the idea that the risk/benefit ratio of taking on another human female in any capacity whatsoever is worth it. Optimus, Elon's household robot, will take care of my needs in the years to come.
Indeed. The fact that the men have reacted shows that the reality is men are stronger. The other day I read that women were in Pstriarchy for 8000 years: It took men less than 40 to react 😅
This is a very good idea to stand the notorious TM tag on its head. What's "toxic" about men is very often (as many others have said) what societies have long needed men for--defense, protection, rescue. And societ still needs men for these services. I also think you make an essential point in that you are doing something, pushing back. Thanks for your response to Tom's essay.
Excellent essay, Tom. Note that the moral inferiority message much predated phrases like "Toxic Masculinity." It is there in the founding analysis of Feminism, which says that men oppressed women. Oppressors are guilty, victims are innocent. We need look no further than that to see the essential stigmatization and denigration of men based on an intrinsic characteristic.
Feminists have succeeded in turning male strengths against men and boys. Their misandrist propaganda builds their morale, justifies their aggression and hostility, and brings smiles to their faces. It is essential for men to reject, openly and face to face, these damaging feminist assertions rather than to submit to them. Feminists have distorted men's strengths and encouraged men to forget that they are as good as women. One problem with the "messaging" is that the media are largely feminist. As far as the media are concerned, there is no "other side" to feminism, which is simply good; there is no "other side" to masculinity, which is simply bad. The totalitarian and simplistic dogma of feminists reveals their obsession with power and control, just what they have always despised in men. They are as destructive of happiness and well-being as the worst male examples they can think of. Years ago, when I was working, I saw a sign on a colleague's door: "Trust Women." I knew what it meant: "Do Not Trust Men." The sign was telling me what to do: undercut and doubt myself, defer to women. It was an attempt to silence me and turn me against myself. The praise of women was secondary.
Indeed, Trust women means better look out for men, the future is female means men don't matter. The narcissism is so deep and on one sees it. Everyone applauds. i wonder sometimes if it wouldn't be easier if I just didn't see it. lol
I was astounded when one of the female German teachers I had, here in Switzerland, reminded us how girls learn languages quicker than boys!
I knew that she wanted to build the one and only 'girl', with her mother, in our class up but I got sick of it and after much grinding of my teeth I left. I was there to learn German not social sciences or behaviour or anything else. Just teach me German please!
This was before 2020 and before I started reading MRA blogs.
I realise that during my time with this woman that I felt like I was the problem. Also, there was nothing I could do to change my situation. An older male learning a language!! Maybe I should have become younger and changed my gender!!!
I see it every day. I lived through the sixties when youth culture constantly and in as many ways as possible lived the motto, Don't trust anyone over thirty. It still survives now that I am rapidly approaching the magic eighty. Kids disdain adults. We are automatically seen as senile and dementia. The attitude is, Why don't you just die already.
Again, I cannot stress enough that there are awful women in the World. There are also awful men. The reality is that men and women need each other in order to function in society. Emotionally, men and women need each other. To become parents men and women need each other, as they do to bring up their children properly. Centuries of the oppression of women, which continues in countries like Afghanistan, Saudi, Iran etc. has resulted in many women, possibly subconsciously, fearing being dominated by men both personally, socially and govermentally. With just cause it would seem if the events happening in America are anything to go by. However, when the relationships between the sexes descends to name calling and diminishing the role of both men and women, it has to stop. Both sexes are of equal importance and are of equal value. There is also the issue of safety. Like it or not men are able to make women afraid for their safety just by their physical presence if that presence is threatening. My experience with men is one of enhanced safety and security. Many women though have had the opposite experience. It is only within the last few years that domestic violence has become a crime. We need to work together and make society better and both male and female lives happier.
Feminism should be labed among Hate crimes: the worst of them: a crime againt humanity and politicians who spread it severely punished.
Who launched it ? Globalists ! Why ? to make as much profit they could from western female consumers ! With the the enthousiastic help of politicians !
I think that feminism is not altogether bad. Like any other ism it can go totally awry if it is taken to extremes. My friend’s mother, a widow with one daughter and only five hundred pounds short of paying cash for the property, had to get her brother in law to sign as guarantee tor tor her mortgage. This in spite of the fact that the house was a boarding house and it was a profitable enterprise anyhow. Women could not have cheque accounts without their husband’s authorisation until the mid sixties. I was the exception as I was a member of a Limited Company at an early age and had a cheque account by the time I was 16. My father and mother made no differentiation between their three sons and three daughters. We were all expected to be able to manage whatever befell. This is what it is all about. Not are women better than men nor vice versa. A necessary, complementary bonding of skills. My husband felt the same about my capabilities and was quick to take offense if anyone was rude or dismissive of me. We were happy as are my memories and appreciation for him and the supportive stance he always took towards me as I did him.
Female emancipation was necessary to grant women autonomy. Not to give either sex the advantage over the other.
As a Black man, I have lived Elliots experiment and I am currently living through this toxic masculinity era. I saw it at my church 7 yrs ago as one of the pastors and I stood up to it. We lost members but it was the right thing to do.
But you are right. It mirrors Elliots experience. I would add that some men are choosing to marry women either from countries with conservative cultures (passport bros) or women in the U.S. with more conservative immigrant backgrounds. Part of that reason is that exude what many American women have been shedding: femininity and submission. My sons will be fine but I am concerned for my daughters who are more traditional like their mom.
Don't underestimate the effect the "manosphere" and "red-pilling" are having these days. Men are fed up with modern Western women and are increasingly depriving those women of the one thing they MUST have: attention. The notion that girls are sugar, spice, and everything nice has gone by the wayside. Having been made aware the dangers of marriage, men are simply not doing it; birth rate - whether legitimate or illegitimate - now won't sustain the population. Michael's - the largest bridal shop in North America - went bankrupt. Men are making it very clear that career women are not wanted, and are simply letting those strong, independent women stew in their own brew.
No, the pendulum always swings. Me? Divorced at 72, I'm a lot smarter. The Red-pill culture has completely disabused me of the idea that the risk/benefit ratio of taking on another human female in any capacity whatsoever is worth it. Optimus, Elon's household robot, will take care of my needs in the years to come.
Indeed. The fact that the men have reacted shows that the reality is men are stronger. The other day I read that women were in Pstriarchy for 8000 years: It took men less than 40 to react 😅
I'm working on an essay that praises "toxic masculinity." Doing what I can to turn this thing around.
This is a very good idea to stand the notorious TM tag on its head. What's "toxic" about men is very often (as many others have said) what societies have long needed men for--defense, protection, rescue. And societ still needs men for these services. I also think you make an essential point in that you are doing something, pushing back. Thanks for your response to Tom's essay.
Excellent analogy and article, thanks Tom!
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Thanks Mike!
Excellent essay, Tom. Note that the moral inferiority message much predated phrases like "Toxic Masculinity." It is there in the founding analysis of Feminism, which says that men oppressed women. Oppressors are guilty, victims are innocent. We need look no further than that to see the essential stigmatization and denigration of men based on an intrinsic characteristic.
Exactly David, thanks. And oppressors should be held accountable but victims should not....
Just so you know Tom:
Two leftie feminists not happy with each other !!!!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-14705173/Abbie-Chatfield-claps-Clementine-Ford-claims.html
We need more of that!
Feminists have succeeded in turning male strengths against men and boys. Their misandrist propaganda builds their morale, justifies their aggression and hostility, and brings smiles to their faces. It is essential for men to reject, openly and face to face, these damaging feminist assertions rather than to submit to them. Feminists have distorted men's strengths and encouraged men to forget that they are as good as women. One problem with the "messaging" is that the media are largely feminist. As far as the media are concerned, there is no "other side" to feminism, which is simply good; there is no "other side" to masculinity, which is simply bad. The totalitarian and simplistic dogma of feminists reveals their obsession with power and control, just what they have always despised in men. They are as destructive of happiness and well-being as the worst male examples they can think of. Years ago, when I was working, I saw a sign on a colleague's door: "Trust Women." I knew what it meant: "Do Not Trust Men." The sign was telling me what to do: undercut and doubt myself, defer to women. It was an attempt to silence me and turn me against myself. The praise of women was secondary.
Indeed, Trust women means better look out for men, the future is female means men don't matter. The narcissism is so deep and on one sees it. Everyone applauds. i wonder sometimes if it wouldn't be easier if I just didn't see it. lol
I was astounded when one of the female German teachers I had, here in Switzerland, reminded us how girls learn languages quicker than boys!
I knew that she wanted to build the one and only 'girl', with her mother, in our class up but I got sick of it and after much grinding of my teeth I left. I was there to learn German not social sciences or behaviour or anything else. Just teach me German please!
This was before 2020 and before I started reading MRA blogs.
I realise that during my time with this woman that I felt like I was the problem. Also, there was nothing I could do to change my situation. An older male learning a language!! Maybe I should have become younger and changed my gender!!!
I see it every day. I lived through the sixties when youth culture constantly and in as many ways as possible lived the motto, Don't trust anyone over thirty. It still survives now that I am rapidly approaching the magic eighty. Kids disdain adults. We are automatically seen as senile and dementia. The attitude is, Why don't you just die already.
Again, I cannot stress enough that there are awful women in the World. There are also awful men. The reality is that men and women need each other in order to function in society. Emotionally, men and women need each other. To become parents men and women need each other, as they do to bring up their children properly. Centuries of the oppression of women, which continues in countries like Afghanistan, Saudi, Iran etc. has resulted in many women, possibly subconsciously, fearing being dominated by men both personally, socially and govermentally. With just cause it would seem if the events happening in America are anything to go by. However, when the relationships between the sexes descends to name calling and diminishing the role of both men and women, it has to stop. Both sexes are of equal importance and are of equal value. There is also the issue of safety. Like it or not men are able to make women afraid for their safety just by their physical presence if that presence is threatening. My experience with men is one of enhanced safety and security. Many women though have had the opposite experience. It is only within the last few years that domestic violence has become a crime. We need to work together and make society better and both male and female lives happier.
Feminism should be labed among Hate crimes: the worst of them: a crime againt humanity and politicians who spread it severely punished.
Who launched it ? Globalists ! Why ? to make as much profit they could from western female consumers ! With the the enthousiastic help of politicians !
I think that feminism is not altogether bad. Like any other ism it can go totally awry if it is taken to extremes. My friend’s mother, a widow with one daughter and only five hundred pounds short of paying cash for the property, had to get her brother in law to sign as guarantee tor tor her mortgage. This in spite of the fact that the house was a boarding house and it was a profitable enterprise anyhow. Women could not have cheque accounts without their husband’s authorisation until the mid sixties. I was the exception as I was a member of a Limited Company at an early age and had a cheque account by the time I was 16. My father and mother made no differentiation between their three sons and three daughters. We were all expected to be able to manage whatever befell. This is what it is all about. Not are women better than men nor vice versa. A necessary, complementary bonding of skills. My husband felt the same about my capabilities and was quick to take offense if anyone was rude or dismissive of me. We were happy as are my memories and appreciation for him and the supportive stance he always took towards me as I did him.
Female emancipation was necessary to grant women autonomy. Not to give either sex the advantage over the other.
As a Black man, I have lived Elliots experiment and I am currently living through this toxic masculinity era. I saw it at my church 7 yrs ago as one of the pastors and I stood up to it. We lost members but it was the right thing to do.
But you are right. It mirrors Elliots experience. I would add that some men are choosing to marry women either from countries with conservative cultures (passport bros) or women in the U.S. with more conservative immigrant backgrounds. Part of that reason is that exude what many American women have been shedding: femininity and submission. My sons will be fine but I am concerned for my daughters who are more traditional like their mom.
So true ! Feminism is a dangerous hate ideology designed by politicians to dupe people and keep them in rheir power and profits !