This report was written some time ago but the deceit it exposes is important to grasp in order to understand how narratives are created and maintained.
It has been my experience that most coercion in these matters is women coercing men into marriage via unintended pregnancies, not the other way around. Given that men have no right to abortion or to insist that their child be given the chance at life, I would say this is a fabricated issue by feminists. Perhaps we should pass a law giving custody and rights over all unborn male children exclusively to the father with women having such rights only over daughters. Women would then have only themselves to blame if abortion suddenly began skewing the sex ratio of children far worse than China's One Child policy ever hoped to do.
Yes, that has also been my experience. I was shocked at the time to see things reversed and also shocked that they never asked the women if they had done anything similar.
I think we have to change how we handle such issues. We need to call out the feminist hypocrisy when it happens and do it publicly and loudly. If sanctions are being imposed on the man for "misconduct" in the workplace when a consensual relationship occurred, we must DEMAND that the woman face the same penalty as the man and threaten and follow through with legal action if they do not. We need to report such conduct when we see it and demand that the woman face the same sanctions as a man would face. Make it as uncomfortable for them as possible.
Or how about if after a one night stand, the woman wants to keep a resulting child while the man doesn't, and the woman decides to go through with the birth anyway, the man does not have to pay child support.
My reflex is to respond with one word – unbelievable. But unfortunately this is all TOO believable, and fits right in with that Forbes report on the wage gap. In politics they say you need to define your competitor before he has a chance to define himself. Well feminists have sure defined us, to the point where people don’t even think twice about this kind of palpable nonsense. And as your last essay pointed out, we have been all too passive in letting that happen – even complicit in some ways. But either way, it seems to me we need to find some way of fighting back against this stuff, by finding a way to penetrate the thick skulls of the media and the political world at large.
Superb work following up the sources. Now we just need some sensible research to see how often the 'reproductive coercion' goes the other way. A woman in this God-forsaken society can abort her way out of an unwanted child - a man is on the hook for 18 years.
There is a very good diagram at the beginning that made me think: I was challenged: all my old thinking was challenged.
One thing which Janice mentioned was something like: it cannot be that from one day to the next a woman can decide she doesn't want the baby and the man has no say.
As a childless man I'd never thought of this aspect. I'd always thought it is the mans fault 100% but now after four years of MRA reading and these sort of discussions I feel like I'm in a different world.
I posted this interview on my own substack and commented that it is 2024 and if we believe that we have free will and with all the different contraception methods available (men and women) why are these problems still happening? But I know that life is not so clear cut or easy..
It has been my experience that most coercion in these matters is women coercing men into marriage via unintended pregnancies, not the other way around. Given that men have no right to abortion or to insist that their child be given the chance at life, I would say this is a fabricated issue by feminists. Perhaps we should pass a law giving custody and rights over all unborn male children exclusively to the father with women having such rights only over daughters. Women would then have only themselves to blame if abortion suddenly began skewing the sex ratio of children far worse than China's One Child policy ever hoped to do.
Yes, that has also been my experience. I was shocked at the time to see things reversed and also shocked that they never asked the women if they had done anything similar.
I think we have to change how we handle such issues. We need to call out the feminist hypocrisy when it happens and do it publicly and loudly. If sanctions are being imposed on the man for "misconduct" in the workplace when a consensual relationship occurred, we must DEMAND that the woman face the same penalty as the man and threaten and follow through with legal action if they do not. We need to report such conduct when we see it and demand that the woman face the same sanctions as a man would face. Make it as uncomfortable for them as possible.
Or how about if after a one night stand, the woman wants to keep a resulting child while the man doesn't, and the woman decides to go through with the birth anyway, the man does not have to pay child support.
That's excelllent research. Well done.
I have a suggestion though. If you provided links it would be useful for rebutting criticism & also for anyone who wants to do a deeper dive.
Very good point and one that I sometimes forget. Here's a link to the research which is now free. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2896047/
You'd make an excellent investigative journalist, Tom. Thanks for this case study.
Thanks Paul. I appreciate that coming from you.
How on earth can someone believe that women can be coerced into pregnancy when women have all the reproductive rights and men have not?
the pill, the after pill, abortion, and so on are available for women any time.
Because women lie!
Turns out…
My reflex is to respond with one word – unbelievable. But unfortunately this is all TOO believable, and fits right in with that Forbes report on the wage gap. In politics they say you need to define your competitor before he has a chance to define himself. Well feminists have sure defined us, to the point where people don’t even think twice about this kind of palpable nonsense. And as your last essay pointed out, we have been all too passive in letting that happen – even complicit in some ways. But either way, it seems to me we need to find some way of fighting back against this stuff, by finding a way to penetrate the thick skulls of the media and the political world at large.
It is amazing isn't it? Hard to believe we live in a world where the flow of information is so controlled....
Superb work following up the sources. Now we just need some sensible research to see how often the 'reproductive coercion' goes the other way. A woman in this God-forsaken society can abort her way out of an unwanted child - a man is on the hook for 18 years.
Thank you Lori and you are correct that we need to see how it goes both ways.
apart from 'reproductive' coercion..
when does foreplay become coercion and coercion become foreplay!!
It is shame that the same governments that support the feminist agenda are not offering free courses of self-development/awareness for all...
Damn Jamie, don't say that out loud. If they hear it they will make a law for it...
mmmmm you could be right ;)
but a law that only applies to men.....mmmmmm
A woman in an art class once told me that she contemplated getting pregnant to keep the man she loved. She didn't go through with that plan.
I"m commenting so that I/we are not coerced into thinking 'it is always men'.. A reminder.
Thank you Tom for being a steadfast detective.
I found this interview excellent: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyndowUvFAs Men Are Good : Abortion: A Men's Issue
There is a very good diagram at the beginning that made me think: I was challenged: all my old thinking was challenged.
One thing which Janice mentioned was something like: it cannot be that from one day to the next a woman can decide she doesn't want the baby and the man has no say.
As a childless man I'd never thought of this aspect. I'd always thought it is the mans fault 100% but now after four years of MRA reading and these sort of discussions I feel like I'm in a different world.
I posted this interview on my own substack and commented that it is 2024 and if we believe that we have free will and with all the different contraception methods available (men and women) why are these problems still happening? But I know that life is not so clear cut or easy..