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James Wills's avatar

It's not just an artificiality of civilization; it's hardwired. Several decades ago I saw a car sitting beside the Interstate, on fire, windows up. By the time I got stopped and reached it, there were already four men on scene, breaking out the driver's side window and pulling out the driver through the flames. Women on the scene? Not a one.

Witness any video of danger; the men run toward it; the women run away, and even when they manage to get their fears under control, they are discombobulated messes - witness the Secret Service agents in Butler, PA, during the attempted assassination of Trump, thrashing around and basically just in the way. Or the female police officers who shoot the wrong person during arrests. It's not their line of work, and not their fault. I didn't invent biology; it's just how it is.

Tom Golden's avatar

Indeed. Both hardwired and socially pushed. Men are caught between those two forces and have very creative responses.

Conrad Riker's avatar

What about that police woman who executed a bystander then failed to stop the bad guy in Canada?

Women panic blindly under pressure and can't pass physical tests for combat roles such as policing.

Yet, we bend reality to enforce the lie that women are superior to men in every thing. Their magic vaginas change everything.

James Wills's avatar

One of my favorite classes in engineering school was "Automated Control Systems." It always fascinated me how the tiniest, most delicate joystick could control hundreds of thousands of horsepower.

I used to read MRIs and CT scans for a living, and of course we regularly did pelvic scans. Along the lines above, in the normal state the vagina is completely collapsed; there is not even any air in it. If you don't know your anatomy, you won't even know where it is on the picture - not even a space, just a potential space.

Sometimes I would chuckle to think that nothing - literally nothing - had controlled the fate of empires or the fall of armies. Never underestimate the Magic Vagina.

Jack Kammer's avatar

I look forward to the day when the emergency protocol is "parents with children first." What would need to change before that could happen? What would change afterward if it did?

Conrad Riker's avatar

White star lines enforced the Birkenhead protocol at gun point.

James Wills's avatar

!!! Few people know that.

Conrad Riker's avatar

We will make honest films in a year or two when one zealous man with an API subscription can dewoke the world.

Imagine proper literature and archetypes speaking directly to our hearts without the Hollywood hijack.

James Wills's avatar

Elon says he's going to produce a real Odyssey, using AI. The heroine will be appropriately Greek in appearance and all the cultural references will be historically accurate. Hope the "actors" (avatars?) speak English, though.

Conrad Riker's avatar

That will be a watershed event.

If he pours money into it then for $50,000 they'll get equivalent to 100x more expensive production. And talented creatives will help him.

Then we'll have a precedent for unwoking movies at the time of their release.

Instant golden age.

Sadredin Moosavi's avatar

The Titanic example shows us something important alongside the women and children first "moral" imperative. Notice that the crew required to staff the life boats and keep the refugee women and children safe were not OTHER women and children...but were in fact men. The moral imperative also recognizes that for major tasks like this, the competence lies with men...NOT women. The same is generally the choice of societies when it comes to questions of leadership. Women complain that they are not given equal opportunities while ignoring the responsibilities that they are exempted from....but perhaps we should be looking at why men demonstrates capability in so many areas that women clearly and systemically fall short. Could it be that male utility compared to major limitations in the abilities of women is actually what drives much of this moral imperative?

Conrad Riker's avatar

Men also built the Titanic.

James Wills's avatar

And everything - literally everything - else in the world. I like to say that, if the accomplishments of the Dead White Men that the Left and feminists love to hate were removed from history books, you'd end up with something the size of a comic book. If the accomplishments of women and minorities were removed, you couldn't tell the difference.

HOWEVER. It takes only a moment's reflection to come to the conclusion that women have traditionally performed the only job that mattered: bearing and training the next generation. Now, rather than work for their families who will appreciate and love them until they draw their last breath, they are urged to work for men who run corporations that couldn't give two cents whether they live or die, that use them until they are used up and then bin them, who will forget them one month after they retire.

Since my wife lit out seven years ago, in my retirement I've been able to indulge in housekeeping for me and my son. It is SO much more rewarding than the work that I did for forty years. Why any woman - and they have the choice; men don't - would choose to fight in the trenches instead of homemaking - is beyond me.

Tom Golden's avatar

It's beyond me too. The brainwashing that has been successful is truly amazing. Women today are bragging about their right to kill their babies. 60 years ago they would be put into mental hospitals.

Sadredin Moosavi's avatar

It is noteworthy that women dominated organizations (academic departments, hospital nursing staff, K-12 teachers lounges) do increasingly resemble insane asylums. Imagine if all the mentally ill feminist women were back in mental institutions and society was free of their influence?!

Conrad Riker's avatar

Women are insaner than men.

40% of Gen Z are mentally ill.

This implies that fewer than 40% are feminist.

Or can feminist carriers be undiagnosed?

Definitely not unsymptomatic.

Conrad Riker's avatar

Ironically, in UK at least, they must claim mental illness to get doctors to sign off on the medical exemption from life time penal servitude for offences against the person act 1863 abortion. Predictably, 95% of the ten million Britons aborted we're under this "mental illness" cosigned by do no harm doctors. May God forgive us.

Guest007's avatar

Women are more than 50% of law, medical, dental, vet, PA, PT, pharmacy, and OT students. Planning on being a SAHM means that the woman is taking on a lot of financial risks that is hard to offset.

Conrad Riker's avatar

Female law grants her a lein on her husband's assets and labor.

Tails she wins, heads he loses.

It's the option, not the obligation, to divorce rape him to liquidate his equity and get title to it.

Guest007's avatar

If the woman earns more, then the husband gets the money. As more marriages become equal earning marriages, the division of property will become less of an issue.

Conrad Riker's avatar

If the woman earns more, then she has labored in exchange.

Not having committed a crime, she cannot be deprived of it by law.

Unless we're violating the constitution and performing a Satanic inversion of justice to "care".

Conrad Riker's avatar

The natural order gives wives and mothers the office of matrimonium.

This is indeed a great responsibility and respected commensurately.

Guest007's avatar

There is nothing biological standing in the way for women to be crane operators or naval architects.

Sadredin Moosavi's avatar

Agreed...same with draftees, yet...they still seem not to want to show up and to be offended when expected to. I have never had a man refuse to assist with a task on a job based on his sex. He has always at least tried to assist or do the job, even if ultimately having to ask for help. Women, on the other hand, refuse tasks all the time and make clear that it is because they are women and should not have to do that task.

Conrad Riker's avatar

Women panic under pressure.

They anxietize under responsibility.

Their ancestors raised children under male protection.

Guest007's avatar

Written by someone who has never worked in emergency medicine. Almost all of those Emergency medicine nurses and a significant portion of the physicians are women. Try harder.

Tom Golden's avatar

I've worked in medicine for many years and the men generally stay more calm in a crisis. The big five numbers bear that out showing that women on the whole score higher on neuroticism than men. That includes things like:

Anxiety

Worry

Fear

Anger or irritability

Sadness or depression

Self-consciousness

Emotional volatility

Stress reactivity

Conrad Riker's avatar

Nurses famously eat their own.

The matron will jealously aggress her girls on the ward.

And they are there to mix with male doctors so he can pay her debts.

Conrad Riker's avatar

There is though.

Girls' three dimensional rotation skills are weak.

Just as boys verbal fluency is weak.

Watch women try to operate an excavator.

Listen to men try to give sports commentary.

Sadredin Moosavi's avatar

There is a difference in the normal distribution of skills between the sexes, I do not deny. That is not the point. As I said, the men will at least try to perform the task even if it ultimately is beyond their skill level and must be assigned to someone better suited. The problem with women is the entitled attitude that suggests they have no obligation to even try...often at tasks using skills that are well within their abilities. That is not a problem of biology...but of psychology.

Conrad Riker's avatar

Yes, but...

Personality traits distribution differs by sex.

Guest007's avatar

Written by someone who has never had to deal with middle school students.

Conrad Riker's avatar

Women's life path is marriage and motherhood.

Education makes that more difficult in excess.

Guest007's avatar

Written by someone who must never watch sports. Males are much better at sports commentary because men are allowed to be self-deprecating whereas women are not. Also, men are allowed to get excited by the underdog or the upset. Women commentators are homers for the favorites. Just listen to a female tennis commentator.

Tom Golden's avatar

I am getting tired of your habit to attack the person rather than the idea. Please address the ideas rather than "written by someone who."

Conrad Riker's avatar

Women externalize their locus of control.

It's the bicameral mind, materialising the negative animus, self critics, and BPD private logicians, to tell her what to do.

The Daddy complex is related as she'll seek instructions to follow from a wage labor boss, father, or husband.

Diffuse awareness and evolved lack of insight or boundaries, and a consensus over truth prioritization, make it difficult for such morally arrested development women to be reasonable.

Sadredin Moosavi's avatar

No one is preventing women from being self depracating. They just tend not to be willing to do it for the most part which is why you rarely see it. The women who can do it are well accepted by "the guys" but criticized by their fellow WOMEN for acting like one of the "boys".

Conrad Riker's avatar

Who doesn't allow that?

Is he in the room with us now?

Guest007's avatar

I never understand people who think they are being clever by intentionally misunderstanding something. Women, in modern American society, do not do self-deprecating humor.

Regeneration X's avatar

Male sperm are cheap and abundant. Female eggs are expensive and limited. Everything else follows.

CompCat's avatar

Except men aren't cheap, masculinity is sacred. Its just a case of bad pattern recognition. If your world is a misandrist hell all the women lose too.

David Stanley Lavery's avatar

Anything rotten and dangerous is always left to men, Feminists say men are privileged yet feminists are not demanding to change places with us, instead they are fighting to give women more privilege and better rights not equality, Its a case of men are privileged but don't treat us like them.

Guest007's avatar

The claim is doubtful since President Trump has never changed a diaper in his life.

David Stanley Lavery's avatar

whatever trump does doesn't alter the fact that women are spoiled, sexist hypocrites.

Guest007's avatar

When the majority of non-Hispanic white men elected a spoiled sexist narcissistic sociopath president, it does alter all other arguments.

Concerned Male's avatar

"The book grew out of a simple question: Why are some forms of male suffering so difficult for us to recognize, even when the evidence is directly in front of us?"

It is because men do not matter at all in western societies, ONLY women matter.

In the west, we live in gynocentric countries that follow feminism's misandrist ideology. The war and misandry against men is supported and portrayed by all forms of the media, the education system and the governments that care only about women!

CompCat's avatar

Imagine a bee hive. A bee hive is a matriarchy. There's no king. There's no group of powerful males running the show. Its a matriarchy. Feminine. Now imagine how absurd it would be to hear a "pro male" narrative in bee world. It would make no sense. Female bees run things so the males are used as sacrifice.

Its identical in human world, except our stories encrypt reality and make things a lot more complicated but it's functionally the same thing. The queen and the coven run humanity. That is the truth and that is how things have been for hundreds of thousands of years. There has never been a king in charge of things . Let that sink in.

Guest007's avatar

The U.S. military is currently 18% female. And the last year of the draft was 1973 which means that the youngest person in the U.S. to ever be subjected to the draft is more than 70 years old. According to Google AI: Active federal prosecutions of draft non-registrants effectively ceased in the 1980s after the government brought a total of only 20 cases against vocal or conscientious resisters.

That the MRA make a big deal out of selective service shows how hard they struggle to find real issues to talk about. See Andrew Wilson. Modern warfare and nuclear weapons has basically ended for a country like the U.S. to ever have a draft.

And one can argue that one of the biggest mistakes South Korea has made in government policy is mandatory service for males while no mandatory service for females.

Hiccup's avatar

"prosecutions of draft non-registrants effectively ceased in the 1980s"

Draft registration DOES exist for men but not women. In fact, boys are now AUTOMATICALLY registered for the draft while girls continue to enjoy the privileged life of an upper caste member.

Guest007's avatar

That is a political choice. However, the chance of someone ever being drafted keeps going down. Wars are no longer fought with larger numbers of quickly trained infantry. Technology and nuclear weapons limit what can happen in a war.

If society is given the choice between making females registering for the draft or making women second class citizens, society will make women register for the draft.

Hiccup's avatar

Girls were extremely close to being forced to register for the draft a few years ago until the Senate's super simp, Josh Hawley, made it his personal mission to prevent passage of a bill (I think it was the annual NDAA) that included female registration. Unfortunately, he was successful and females remain privileged.

Guest007's avatar

I have always thought that one of South Korea's major policy mistakes is not requiring women to do the mandatory military service that men are forced to do. It puts men behind women who graduate college at the same time and creates resentment in men in South Korea.

Hiccup's avatar
8dEdited

I agree but the imbalance was more than likely intentional, as it is throughout the west (minus some of the Scandinavian/Nordic countries that require female draft registration and mandatory military service) where women have the unearned right to "vote" without being forced to have skin in the game via draft and/or draft registration. It is a humiliation ritual for men/boys in most countries where women have equal (aka "more") rights than men without any responsibilities.

Guest007's avatar

Once again, when was the last time any country in Europe was actually having a draft. It has been more than 50 years in the U.S. And if it came to either taking away women's rights or having them register for the draft, I am sure that having them register for the draft would win out.