I just don't think that feminism is responsible for the inequalities in society. I don't think inequalities increased, in society since feminism was introduced. There are so many inequalities that are part of the workings of society: inequalites between income, access to resources. Employees are not equal to the bosses, patriots see themselves as better than those who question their country's authority, soldiers have to obey, children have to obey the parents. When you make a list of inequalities the number perpetuated by feminism seems trivial to me. I don't question that there are many men who are victims of inequality, but I'm just not ready to think that challenging feminism is the most strategic place to start. Democracy has the absolute power, and to quote Plato, ""Democracy is a charming form of government, full of variety and disorder, and dispensing a sort of equality to equals and unequals alike." My guess is that the issue is more personal for you than for me. Feminism began as a personal problem that became political after a lot of people with similar experiences shared them with each other. Isn't that what you're doing? Employing a feminist strategy for political ends?
My cruel and wicked new Stepfather put me to work in a Sweatshop at age 7; full time all Summer at age 8, with Mom’s approval. If the Authorities had seen a 13 year old girl doing wat I was forced to do at 7 and 8, they’d have led him out of that $h!thole in handcuffs. Western “Society” treats women waaayyyy better and always has!
So, YOUR made-up experience is the same for every female living now, has ever been born, or will be? You are in need of medical help with all those lies! Maybe incarceration?
The anecdote is 100% truthful; in fact, the worst parts are omitted. For that period, I experienced an early 20th century life, while my peers enjoyed a late 20th century life. This is not to compare with all the young girls who had to work in Coal Mines, or dig ditches in the blistering heat. BTW: The latter I did to get out of the Sweat shop. Even comparing the standards of the day, it was a lousy place. How does incarceration figure unto this?
Damn man, sounds tough. Stepfathers are much more often the culprit over bio fathers. Agree that there is a general trend of treating women better than men. No one sees it! They will get angry with you if you say so. Go figure.
One need look no further than the greatest Tragedy ever put to paper: HAMLET. There is nothing like being worked over by a couple of first class Narcissists, unless it happens when you’re seven.
It's not obvious to me that the world hates men. I'm a man and I find the world treats me better than it does most women and better than it treats most other men. Maybe it's because I'm rich and law abiding and anti-war?
Max, I note you joined Substack 3 months ago and have had absolutely no other interaction except this one post in this particular group. Are you a troll or bot?
The world certainly DOES NOT treat men (as a demographic) better the females- you simply are delusional, or a damn liar! Yes, money can fool a lot of people and treat you better, but I find those will money end up not worth my precious time. Money after all, is the Root of all evil’!
Actually, the quote is the Love of Money is the Root of all Evil.
But evil is not objectively quantifiable like numbers are in arithmetic.
Because your statistics seemed bent to your point of view I regarded them as statements of personal experience that has some cherry picked experiences from elsewhere. My experience, again, as an affluent, law-abiding American male is that things go pretty much my way, and I assume they will, which might be in part (if I were superstitious) they do. Of course, if I too the opposite attitude I might find that things weren't so peachy and I know that the lives of women and many minorities have challenges I will never experience. My guess is that if it's true, that men are for the most part being treated badly it's probably because of karma. Anyway, lighten up. It's just social media, not reality.
Pretty words do not change observable reality. We here think you are incorrect. But because we still have a modicum of free-speech in this country, you are allowed your ‘opinion’- and that’s all it will remain.
Best to you Max. I hope your good fortune continues! If you are interested in these issues you might want to watch the Red Pill Movie to get a better idea of the issues we are talking about. That or maybe read Warren Farrell's book The Myth of Male Power.
Hey Max, maybe the word hate is throwing you off. Men are treated vbery differently than women. Just imagine what sorts of treatment you might get if you had no money. LOL
Neither a troll nor a bot.
I just don't think that feminism is responsible for the inequalities in society. I don't think inequalities increased, in society since feminism was introduced. There are so many inequalities that are part of the workings of society: inequalites between income, access to resources. Employees are not equal to the bosses, patriots see themselves as better than those who question their country's authority, soldiers have to obey, children have to obey the parents. When you make a list of inequalities the number perpetuated by feminism seems trivial to me. I don't question that there are many men who are victims of inequality, but I'm just not ready to think that challenging feminism is the most strategic place to start. Democracy has the absolute power, and to quote Plato, ""Democracy is a charming form of government, full of variety and disorder, and dispensing a sort of equality to equals and unequals alike." My guess is that the issue is more personal for you than for me. Feminism began as a personal problem that became political after a lot of people with similar experiences shared them with each other. Isn't that what you're doing? Employing a feminist strategy for political ends?
Feminism has gone long way in having anti male laws put in place. Also feminism was not about equity, is was all about power.
Exactly.
My cruel and wicked new Stepfather put me to work in a Sweatshop at age 7; full time all Summer at age 8, with Mom’s approval. If the Authorities had seen a 13 year old girl doing wat I was forced to do at 7 and 8, they’d have led him out of that $h!thole in handcuffs. Western “Society” treats women waaayyyy better and always has!
So, YOUR made-up experience is the same for every female living now, has ever been born, or will be? You are in need of medical help with all those lies! Maybe incarceration?
The anecdote is 100% truthful; in fact, the worst parts are omitted. For that period, I experienced an early 20th century life, while my peers enjoyed a late 20th century life. This is not to compare with all the young girls who had to work in Coal Mines, or dig ditches in the blistering heat. BTW: The latter I did to get out of the Sweat shop. Even comparing the standards of the day, it was a lousy place. How does incarceration figure unto this?
Damn man, sounds tough. Stepfathers are much more often the culprit over bio fathers. Agree that there is a general trend of treating women better than men. No one sees it! They will get angry with you if you say so. Go figure.
One need look no further than the greatest Tragedy ever put to paper: HAMLET. There is nothing like being worked over by a couple of first class Narcissists, unless it happens when you’re seven.
While the world obviously hates men, Thank for all you do for men and boys!
It's not obvious to me that the world hates men. I'm a man and I find the world treats me better than it does most women and better than it treats most other men. Maybe it's because I'm rich and law abiding and anti-war?
Max, I note you joined Substack 3 months ago and have had absolutely no other interaction except this one post in this particular group. Are you a troll or bot?
The world certainly DOES NOT treat men (as a demographic) better the females- you simply are delusional, or a damn liar! Yes, money can fool a lot of people and treat you better, but I find those will money end up not worth my precious time. Money after all, is the Root of all evil’!
I’ll pass…
Actually, the quote is the Love of Money is the Root of all Evil.
But evil is not objectively quantifiable like numbers are in arithmetic.
Because your statistics seemed bent to your point of view I regarded them as statements of personal experience that has some cherry picked experiences from elsewhere. My experience, again, as an affluent, law-abiding American male is that things go pretty much my way, and I assume they will, which might be in part (if I were superstitious) they do. Of course, if I too the opposite attitude I might find that things weren't so peachy and I know that the lives of women and many minorities have challenges I will never experience. My guess is that if it's true, that men are for the most part being treated badly it's probably because of karma. Anyway, lighten up. It's just social media, not reality.
Yes, This is social medial and your ‘story’ makes for great fiction!
Maybe a career in fake television is in your future? After all, you seem very good at it…
He’s the kind of guy they’d hire to replace Billy Bush!
Pretty words do not change observable reality. We here think you are incorrect. But because we still have a modicum of free-speech in this country, you are allowed your ‘opinion’- and that’s all it will remain.
Best to you Max. I hope your good fortune continues! If you are interested in these issues you might want to watch the Red Pill Movie to get a better idea of the issues we are talking about. That or maybe read Warren Farrell's book The Myth of Male Power.
Hey Max, maybe the word hate is throwing you off. Men are treated vbery differently than women. Just imagine what sorts of treatment you might get if you had no money. LOL
Gynocentrism won't get you anywhere here.
Where are you???? No gynocentrism?
I don't understand? I was commenting on his gynocentrism.
Aha! Sorry, I see now.
LOL; is this the 'two people separated by a common language' that Churchill remarked on?
Thank you Clayton.