Great conversation. I think that some men, however, see this issue as having 2 faces. There is the feminist face that a lot of men I know feel that they have to put on to satisfy other men they think of as left and feminist. I see them do that. But then I catch a ride with one of them or sit down to lunch with one of them, and then see the other side--this is what tome here calls the "shoulder to shoulder" side of male friendship. They will smile at they women we see patting each others' backs because they also hear what their wives or girlfriends say about other women, i.e., women's other face. That said, I agree that the feminists have done a good job of taking over what men once had. It is up to men, however, to fight back. I make a point of talking about my conversations with men in mixed audiences. I also talk about how great it is to be with men in the boxing gym. That is a place where men definitely are comfortable being who they are, not not pleasing women or being vulnerable. Great conversation. Thanks. And, not to belabor my theme, get these boys and men into the gym, onto the field, because nothing builds friendships faster than the stress of competition.
Great conversation. I think that some men, however, see this issue as having 2 faces. There is the feminist face that a lot of men I know feel that they have to put on to satisfy other men they think of as left and feminist. I see them do that. But then I catch a ride with one of them or sit down to lunch with one of them, and then see the other side--this is what tome here calls the "shoulder to shoulder" side of male friendship. They will smile at they women we see patting each others' backs because they also hear what their wives or girlfriends say about other women, i.e., women's other face. That said, I agree that the feminists have done a good job of taking over what men once had. It is up to men, however, to fight back. I make a point of talking about my conversations with men in mixed audiences. I also talk about how great it is to be with men in the boxing gym. That is a place where men definitely are comfortable being who they are, not not pleasing women or being vulnerable. Great conversation. Thanks. And, not to belabor my theme, get these boys and men into the gym, onto the field, because nothing builds friendships faster than the stress of competition.
Amen Allen. Well said. Especially this. "It is up to men, however, to fight back." Exactly.