Feminism, from its very beginnings, is a totalitarian ideology masquerading as a liberation movement. We don't want to see the darkness that was unleashed when we gave in to the terrorism of the early suffragettes.
Yes, of course feminism is hate, hate against men. And not much else. Discrimination based on lies and manipulation. And contortion. It’s getting boring.
thanks Tom for this easy to understand presentation.
I thought of the fight by a Swiss man, dark skinned, who used to be picked up at Zürich main rail station at least once a month and had to show his papers.
It is called 'being profiled'.
The guy had Swiss citizenship, complained that he was being singled out because of his skin colour and his last straw was to refuse to show his ID card and tell the police that they had actually picked him up regularly and that no one else was being stopped and he had observed this.
it went to the high court and they chucked it out.
In the end the man went to the EU Human Rights Commission and was award something like 20,000 euros in his favour.
I personal don't see so many police stopping people at my local railway station anymore.
Men are quite often profiled by some feminists/women.
You might be interested in "The seven-stage hate model : the psychopathology of hate groups ". It's largely based on skinheads & I doubt how well it generalises but it is fairly widely quoted:
Hate can be appropriate, of course, and we ignore hateful feelings at our peril. Nevertheless hate, like pain, is a feeling that sane people experience as relatively intolerable and seek to resolve. To cultivate hate, as feminists do, is analogous to masochism. It's a perversion of healthy aggression against the insufferable.
I've copied the transcript of that superlative summary of the problem. Everything else is commentary on this concise text. Of great importance is your statement about the importance of what people actually do, not what they (might) think or feel.
I must admit that I had never heard of David Byron. Googling him, I found only a few comments on the Good Men Project's website. But if he classified feminist groups with hate groups, then he might have read the four books on misandry that I wrote with Katherine K. Young. In the first volume, "Spreading Misandry: The Teaching of Contempt for Men in Popular Culture" (2001), we included one chapter that systematically (but not so concisely) compared feminist ideology with both Nazi ideology and Communist ideology according to eight characteristic features of all political ideologies.
I'd make only one relatively minor correction. This "Southern town" existed until well into the 1960s. The Civil Rights Movement, on the other hand, began in the 1950s or even earlier.
Tonight I’m publishing something rather different from my usual essays: a working white paper and an open invitation to researchers and professionals.
It began with lived experience, but lived experience is not the evidence. It gave me the questions.
What happens when relationship breakdown, paternal disruption, isolation or institutional conflict come before the online communities later blamed for producing male grievance? What happens when psychological vocabulary moves from description to classification, and eventually into institutions?
And are we studying the route with the same seriousness with which we classify the destination?
I may be wrong. The paper deliberately explains how its central hypotheses could be falsified.
But for the next generation of men, I think the questions are worth preserving before the answers are decided for them.
See the mechanism. Keep the person.
Lived experience gives us the question, not the verdict.
David Byron was not a famous sort. I ran into him on forums (1995-2005 or so) where there were both feminists and anti-feminists. He was by far the best at putting them in their place and did it with zeal and little restraint. I admired his direct and somewhat ruthless approach. It took me a while to realize the wisdom in his ways. He taught me that being too nice to feminists is a fools errand. He may have very will read the Spreading Misandry book, he was very well read and a very smart fellow. I wish I could talk to him today and hear his perceptions of things.
I also wish we could excerpt from the fantastic series you and Katherine wrote. Those books were packed with information and insight. Entire college classes would have been taught for each one. Hell, maybe two classes for each one, they are packed.
Feminism, from its very beginnings, is a totalitarian ideology masquerading as a liberation movement. We don't want to see the darkness that was unleashed when we gave in to the terrorism of the early suffragettes.
Yes, of course feminism is hate, hate against men. And not much else. Discrimination based on lies and manipulation. And contortion. It’s getting boring.
thanks Tom for this easy to understand presentation.
I thought of the fight by a Swiss man, dark skinned, who used to be picked up at Zürich main rail station at least once a month and had to show his papers.
It is called 'being profiled'.
The guy had Swiss citizenship, complained that he was being singled out because of his skin colour and his last straw was to refuse to show his ID card and tell the police that they had actually picked him up regularly and that no one else was being stopped and he had observed this.
it went to the high court and they chucked it out.
In the end the man went to the EU Human Rights Commission and was award something like 20,000 euros in his favour.
I personal don't see so many police stopping people at my local railway station anymore.
Men are quite often profiled by some feminists/women.
Hate evolved to protect against chronic threats.
The animus possessed woman projects her shadow.
Then acts paranoid about it.
If that doesn't work, she uses BPD inductive projection.
Confusing personal and political, she invents a global conspiracy of patriarchs, using her reflex to blame the nearest man.
It's all a complex post hoc rationalization of her ego defence to externalize locus of control and never, ever take responsibility.
Paranoid delusions of the demented fed to Chat GPT and vomited out as polished turds.
Yes, duh
Feminism is about supporting women that murder their children. Only a moron now thinks feminists is about equality.
white oppression next asshole
You might be interested in "The seven-stage hate model : the psychopathology of hate groups ". It's largely based on skinheads & I doubt how well it generalises but it is fairly widely quoted:
https://tandis.odihr.pl/handle/20.500.12389/20846
Thanks for this.
I shared this to Facebook and it was removed
Hope I didn't get you in trouble. Not surprised though, just the title was probably enough.
Hate can be appropriate, of course, and we ignore hateful feelings at our peril. Nevertheless hate, like pain, is a feeling that sane people experience as relatively intolerable and seek to resolve. To cultivate hate, as feminists do, is analogous to masochism. It's a perversion of healthy aggression against the insufferable.
Cultivate hate. Well said. That sums it up.
I've copied the transcript of that superlative summary of the problem. Everything else is commentary on this concise text. Of great importance is your statement about the importance of what people actually do, not what they (might) think or feel.
I must admit that I had never heard of David Byron. Googling him, I found only a few comments on the Good Men Project's website. But if he classified feminist groups with hate groups, then he might have read the four books on misandry that I wrote with Katherine K. Young. In the first volume, "Spreading Misandry: The Teaching of Contempt for Men in Popular Culture" (2001), we included one chapter that systematically (but not so concisely) compared feminist ideology with both Nazi ideology and Communist ideology according to eight characteristic features of all political ideologies.
I'd make only one relatively minor correction. This "Southern town" existed until well into the 1960s. The Civil Rights Movement, on the other hand, began in the 1950s or even earlier.
VERELENDUNG 2.0
Tonight I’m publishing something rather different from my usual essays: a working white paper and an open invitation to researchers and professionals.
It began with lived experience, but lived experience is not the evidence. It gave me the questions.
What happens when relationship breakdown, paternal disruption, isolation or institutional conflict come before the online communities later blamed for producing male grievance? What happens when psychological vocabulary moves from description to classification, and eventually into institutions?
And are we studying the route with the same seriousness with which we classify the destination?
I may be wrong. The paper deliberately explains how its central hypotheses could be falsified.
But for the next generation of men, I think the questions are worth preserving before the answers are decided for them.
See the mechanism. Keep the person.
Lived experience gives us the question, not the verdict.
Reality Keeps Logs™.
https://themulebreeder.substack.com/p/verelendung-20-953?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=23z5e4
David Byron was not a famous sort. I ran into him on forums (1995-2005 or so) where there were both feminists and anti-feminists. He was by far the best at putting them in their place and did it with zeal and little restraint. I admired his direct and somewhat ruthless approach. It took me a while to realize the wisdom in his ways. He taught me that being too nice to feminists is a fools errand. He may have very will read the Spreading Misandry book, he was very well read and a very smart fellow. I wish I could talk to him today and hear his perceptions of things.
I also wish we could excerpt from the fantastic series you and Katherine wrote. Those books were packed with information and insight. Entire college classes would have been taught for each one. Hell, maybe two classes for each one, they are packed.
Can anyone show me feminists who don't blame men for all their imaginary gripes?
Not to be found....
If the S.C.U.M. MANIFESTO were written with the genders reversed, the resultant hoopla would have rivaled the Manson Trial.
Indeed.