I think more to encourage reverie with their own thoughts and fantasies but yes men should be sat at an angle ideally. In my experience men only get the same level of attention when their risk is to others not themselves
Yes, I remember early on figuring out that the face to face seating in most clinics was not helping. I got an l-shaped couch and the men tended to like it.
good morning. I call 988 suicide and crisis line and ask the councilors if they had been given special training for men. NONE. Then I ask to speak with a male councilor. I am told to call back in an hour to see if any are available. Very few male councilors. Less than 20% according to the one male councilor I eventually got to talk to. He held feminist POV but agreed that men should have specialized support. He agreed to mention it to supervisors, who by the way are all women.
I highly recommend lots of people do this. Demand a male councilor. But I suggest letting the councilor know in advance you are not suicidal so you cannot be accused of abusing the service. Ask to speak with supervisor and have them acknowledge they see your number on their screen. Tell them you are uncomfortable talking to a woman. Make it happen, and the supervisors will forward the need for male councilors and specific training for men to their overpersons and slowly, quietly we will give men in crisis a better reception.
So true Tom. And so frustrating. And as you know, it’s hardly confined to the suicide rate. The homelessness and drug overdose death rates are equally lopsided, not to mention the incarceration rate, which is more like 10 to 1. And to me the most infuriating part is the politics – which is where society shows what it really thinks about the problems men are facing.
And whenever I point out that there is not a single issue being discussed in the political arena that is particular to men, the way issues like: reproductive rights, sexual harassment and abuse, and affirmative action are particular to women, I get the printed equivalent of a blank stare. Or comments like, “What are you talking about?” Or, “Wow! What a misogynist,” followed by a largely irrelevant and incoherent personal attack (which I have to admit, I am more than happy to respond to in kind).
But even when I get a more measured response, it is generally along the lines of “Don’t men suffer from sexual abuse?” Which forces me to point out that even though men often ARE the victims of sexual abuse, anytime it comes up in political discourse or elsewhere, it is about men being the perpetrators. Which doesn’t really help men a whole lot, does it?
And while political campaigns spend millions upon millions of dollars trying to reach tiny, feminism-inspired demographic groups that barely show up on the electoral pie chart, they spend not a dime trying to reach (quite literally) half the population.
In fact the political parties are often so desperate to find ways of pandering to women, they go so far as to invent problems, like the issue we talked briefly about last week, the gender pay gap, and that Forbes article:
The report shows numbers indicating that “equal pay for equal work” has been achieved, and then goes on to report large pay gaps in all jobs and industries, some as high as 50 or 60% – but for what it previously shows to be UNEQUAL work. It then goes on to decry this terrible pay gap injustice.
It’s absurd – and so frustrating, especially as I try to write a post responding to the Forbes article. What makes that so difficult, is that the stupidity (or deception) of the report is so obvious, that it seems stupid or redundant to point it out. So what am I complaining about then?!!! It’s all just so infuriating and ridiculous - as is the case with every issue men face.
Amen Bartholomew. Gynocentrism fuels those blank stares and attacks. People simply don't think men can have problems! So frustrating and unreal when you know the truth and see these sorts of reactions. It's like the walking dead.
Tom- I will never understand this bigotry. I have a son and a daughter. I have a beautiful wife. Yet I can manage to care as much about the well-being and fair treatment of my son and my male peers as I do about the females.
It is no less disgusting than racism. It is inexcusable.
Sadly, I don't believe it will ever change. In fact, I believe it is getting worse as the feminist run institutions are becoming more strident and far more willing to use their power to control and punish males. Masculinity has been criminalized.
I will fight this hatred until I die but I know I will be fighting a lost cause.
Would any man with a public platform be able to say "we must stop thinking of domestic violence as a female problem." No frigging way. Anyone who said that would lose their platform and face all kinds of vicious pushback.
Well said Mark. I am in the same boat with a son and daughter and wife. All of whom I love. Agree that things in some ways are getting worse and the fems are more than willing to punish men. I am with you in fighting this hatred until I die. Not a lost cause until you give up.
Thanks for fighting the good fight, Tom. You, Janice and Paul Elam deserve so much more than you get both in audience reach and recognition of the courage you have shown and good you have done in your fight for men's rights.
I think your work on the lack of empathy for the suffering of men and boys has been outstanding but sadly the broader world isn't listening or doesn't care. It is sickening living in a society which treats males with such contempt only to hear feminist morons claim men have all the power because they make up the majority of politicians.
And what do these male politicians do at every opportunity? They pour billions into female specific programs and needs and prioritize their every demand while literally only mentioning men and boys when they are denigrating or demonizing them.
That's the spirit, Tom! I share your sensibilities and I never, never will give up, nor give an inch. Nor will I permit them to depress, worry, or de-spiritualize me.
Keep your chin up, Mark. First, they want to depress and alienate you, before they take more concrete steps. Don't let them drag down your spirit. Make your spirit off-limits to these self-serving monsters.
THE LONG-STANDING INJUSTICE OF “GYNOCENTRISM” MUST END!
Said to have its origins in the 12th Century, this malady of society has exceeded its breaking point. The V.A.W.A. Legislation, in all of its insane glory, and the BOKO HARAM Crimes (Burning the Boys ALIVE, generated zero press coverage; kidnapping the girls created an international community), should have sparked THE END.
They did not!
So, our noble struggle continues. What today’s presentation brought forth for me was some dazzling writing from midway back, to the 12th century. The writer, you may have guessed, was William Shakespeare (A MAN!); the excerpted works are HAMLET and MACBETH.
The scenario for Hamlet goes: His father was murdered by his mother and King Claudius, his brother. Hamlet himself has been sold out; his mother, Queen Gertrude, is the original: “Queen Of Denial”. She, often callously, parries off his pleas to set things right. He is driven to the extreme and, in the most famous scene in all of Theater, alone and desperate, he contemplates suicide:
“To be, or not to be; that is the question?
Whether it is nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, or, to take up arms, against a sea of troubles, and, by opposing, end them.”
Shakespeare saved his best lines for his most poignant messages. Writing does not get better than this!
We need to convince the “Gynocentrist” morons that MEN HAVE SOULS, most often fine, strong, if damaged ones!
Aye, there’s the rub! For getting them to renounce their ill-founded beliefs, would cause their own calamity!
Sad to say, but the evil persons running New Amerika want men and boys not merely silenced, not merely criminalized, but dead.
These elements consider masculinity of any kind a threat to their national/global power and total control, and the surest way to accomplish that is to neuter or eliminate men and boys . . . especially males who don't bow down to them and their agendas.
The push towards feminism over the past 50 years culminates in the current fever to crush masculinity. The Dept. of Homeland Security leads the charge, with its ludicrous scapegoating program, the 'Diverting Hate Group', which picks up where the 'Disinformation Governance Board', led by Executive Director Nina (the Vagina) Jankowitz, left off.
These organizations exist to scapegoat, terrorize, and crush men and boys. Resentment and hate drive these orgs and their backers, and resentment and hate are difficult states to relinquish once acquired. U.S. and Western boys and men be warned: these are treacherous and malevolent persons and organizations, and they are the wave of the Future is Female onrushing times. Take courage, but also take care.
Makes my blood boil Tom. I work in mental health and the gynocentric nature of all therapeutic conversations or interactions is very frustrating.
Even how the positioning of how people sit is important.
Women prefer face-to-face.
Males prefer shoulder-to-shoulder.
That's why psychiatrists used to talk to people at the end of a chaise longue.
The shrink was out of sight.
I think more to encourage reverie with their own thoughts and fantasies but yes men should be sat at an angle ideally. In my experience men only get the same level of attention when their risk is to others not themselves
Yes, I remember early on figuring out that the face to face seating in most clinics was not helping. I got an l-shaped couch and the men tended to like it.
good morning. I call 988 suicide and crisis line and ask the councilors if they had been given special training for men. NONE. Then I ask to speak with a male councilor. I am told to call back in an hour to see if any are available. Very few male councilors. Less than 20% according to the one male councilor I eventually got to talk to. He held feminist POV but agreed that men should have specialized support. He agreed to mention it to supervisors, who by the way are all women.
Well done Dean! One person at a time.
I highly recommend lots of people do this. Demand a male councilor. But I suggest letting the councilor know in advance you are not suicidal so you cannot be accused of abusing the service. Ask to speak with supervisor and have them acknowledge they see your number on their screen. Tell them you are uncomfortable talking to a woman. Make it happen, and the supervisors will forward the need for male councilors and specific training for men to their overpersons and slowly, quietly we will give men in crisis a better reception.
So true Tom. And so frustrating. And as you know, it’s hardly confined to the suicide rate. The homelessness and drug overdose death rates are equally lopsided, not to mention the incarceration rate, which is more like 10 to 1. And to me the most infuriating part is the politics – which is where society shows what it really thinks about the problems men are facing.
And whenever I point out that there is not a single issue being discussed in the political arena that is particular to men, the way issues like: reproductive rights, sexual harassment and abuse, and affirmative action are particular to women, I get the printed equivalent of a blank stare. Or comments like, “What are you talking about?” Or, “Wow! What a misogynist,” followed by a largely irrelevant and incoherent personal attack (which I have to admit, I am more than happy to respond to in kind).
But even when I get a more measured response, it is generally along the lines of “Don’t men suffer from sexual abuse?” Which forces me to point out that even though men often ARE the victims of sexual abuse, anytime it comes up in political discourse or elsewhere, it is about men being the perpetrators. Which doesn’t really help men a whole lot, does it?
And while political campaigns spend millions upon millions of dollars trying to reach tiny, feminism-inspired demographic groups that barely show up on the electoral pie chart, they spend not a dime trying to reach (quite literally) half the population.
In fact the political parties are often so desperate to find ways of pandering to women, they go so far as to invent problems, like the issue we talked briefly about last week, the gender pay gap, and that Forbes article:
https://www.forbes.com/advisor/business/gender-pay-gap-statistics/
The report shows numbers indicating that “equal pay for equal work” has been achieved, and then goes on to report large pay gaps in all jobs and industries, some as high as 50 or 60% – but for what it previously shows to be UNEQUAL work. It then goes on to decry this terrible pay gap injustice.
It’s absurd – and so frustrating, especially as I try to write a post responding to the Forbes article. What makes that so difficult, is that the stupidity (or deception) of the report is so obvious, that it seems stupid or redundant to point it out. So what am I complaining about then?!!! It’s all just so infuriating and ridiculous - as is the case with every issue men face.
Amen Bartholomew. Gynocentrism fuels those blank stares and attacks. People simply don't think men can have problems! So frustrating and unreal when you know the truth and see these sorts of reactions. It's like the walking dead.
Tom- I will never understand this bigotry. I have a son and a daughter. I have a beautiful wife. Yet I can manage to care as much about the well-being and fair treatment of my son and my male peers as I do about the females.
It is no less disgusting than racism. It is inexcusable.
Sadly, I don't believe it will ever change. In fact, I believe it is getting worse as the feminist run institutions are becoming more strident and far more willing to use their power to control and punish males. Masculinity has been criminalized.
I will fight this hatred until I die but I know I will be fighting a lost cause.
Would any man with a public platform be able to say "we must stop thinking of domestic violence as a female problem." No frigging way. Anyone who said that would lose their platform and face all kinds of vicious pushback.
Well said Mark. I am in the same boat with a son and daughter and wife. All of whom I love. Agree that things in some ways are getting worse and the fems are more than willing to punish men. I am with you in fighting this hatred until I die. Not a lost cause until you give up.
Thanks for fighting the good fight, Tom. You, Janice and Paul Elam deserve so much more than you get both in audience reach and recognition of the courage you have shown and good you have done in your fight for men's rights.
I think your work on the lack of empathy for the suffering of men and boys has been outstanding but sadly the broader world isn't listening or doesn't care. It is sickening living in a society which treats males with such contempt only to hear feminist morons claim men have all the power because they make up the majority of politicians.
And what do these male politicians do at every opportunity? They pour billions into female specific programs and needs and prioritize their every demand while literally only mentioning men and boys when they are denigrating or demonizing them.
That's the spirit, Tom! I share your sensibilities and I never, never will give up, nor give an inch. Nor will I permit them to depress, worry, or de-spiritualize me.
Keep your chin up, Mark. First, they want to depress and alienate you, before they take more concrete steps. Don't let them drag down your spirit. Make your spirit off-limits to these self-serving monsters.
Same here in Ireland.
Got your back, Boris. Keep up the good fight along with my friends John Waters and Richard Kelly.
I met John once, we had a coffee.
Lovely fellow.
Doubtless. Fine writer and indefatigable fighter.
THE LONG-STANDING INJUSTICE OF “GYNOCENTRISM” MUST END!
Said to have its origins in the 12th Century, this malady of society has exceeded its breaking point. The V.A.W.A. Legislation, in all of its insane glory, and the BOKO HARAM Crimes (Burning the Boys ALIVE, generated zero press coverage; kidnapping the girls created an international community), should have sparked THE END.
They did not!
So, our noble struggle continues. What today’s presentation brought forth for me was some dazzling writing from midway back, to the 12th century. The writer, you may have guessed, was William Shakespeare (A MAN!); the excerpted works are HAMLET and MACBETH.
The scenario for Hamlet goes: His father was murdered by his mother and King Claudius, his brother. Hamlet himself has been sold out; his mother, Queen Gertrude, is the original: “Queen Of Denial”. She, often callously, parries off his pleas to set things right. He is driven to the extreme and, in the most famous scene in all of Theater, alone and desperate, he contemplates suicide:
“To be, or not to be; that is the question?
Whether it is nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, or, to take up arms, against a sea of troubles, and, by opposing, end them.”
Shakespeare saved his best lines for his most poignant messages. Writing does not get better than this!
We need to convince the “Gynocentrist” morons that MEN HAVE SOULS, most often fine, strong, if damaged ones!
Aye, there’s the rub! For getting them to renounce their ill-founded beliefs, would cause their own calamity!
Well said Eric and Men Are Good Souls!
I’ve left out the Macbeth part for now! Wanted to leave it on that last line.
Sad to say, but the evil persons running New Amerika want men and boys not merely silenced, not merely criminalized, but dead.
These elements consider masculinity of any kind a threat to their national/global power and total control, and the surest way to accomplish that is to neuter or eliminate men and boys . . . especially males who don't bow down to them and their agendas.
The push towards feminism over the past 50 years culminates in the current fever to crush masculinity. The Dept. of Homeland Security leads the charge, with its ludicrous scapegoating program, the 'Diverting Hate Group', which picks up where the 'Disinformation Governance Board', led by Executive Director Nina (the Vagina) Jankowitz, left off.
These organizations exist to scapegoat, terrorize, and crush men and boys. Resentment and hate drive these orgs and their backers, and resentment and hate are difficult states to relinquish once acquired. U.S. and Western boys and men be warned: these are treacherous and malevolent persons and organizations, and they are the wave of the Future is Female onrushing times. Take courage, but also take care.
“His Brother” I mean, of course, “King Hamlet’s BROTHER, not “Prince Hamlet.